Now what are us Brits to do?

hufartd

Active Member
It's a conspiracy, they ARE out to get you.
Try getting paranoid
 

KhalJimbo

Distinguished Member
Get a life maybe?
 

la gran siete

Distinguished Member
growing your own is a good option , much cheaper too.As for paid nookie there are plenty of good independent escorts out there to service ones needs
 

eric pisch

Distinguished Member
Its a good start, now just remove the rest of the Cafe's and reclassify it class A in the UK with a min of 5 years for possesion.

Damn Junkies :mad:
 

LCR_Dave

Active Member
lol smoking cannabis makes you a junkie since when, minimum 5 years for having it :rotfl: i think there is more to worry about than weed smokers, how about alcoholics drink driving ect, remember no one has died from a cannabis overdose compared to how many drunks have died or killed someone behind the wheel? people frown on it because they dont understand it, and the goverment allow it because it makes them a fortune,
 

eric pisch

Distinguished Member
lol smoking cannabis makes you a junkie since when, minimum 5 years for having it :rotfl: i think there is more to worry about than weed smokers, how about alcoholics drink driving ect, remember no one has died from a cannabis overdose compared to how many drunks have died or killed someone behind the wheel? people frown on it because they dont understand it, and the goverment allow it because it makes them a fortune,

they allow it so much its Class B again :smashin:

Possession:
Up to five years in prison or an unlimited fine or both.

Dealing:
Up to 14 years in prison or an unlimited fine or both.


One thing Gordo's got bang on :thumbsup:
 

Gary D

Distinguished Member
I really love the "AVF General Chat ill informed club" :rotfl: lets bang on about something we nothing about. these are normally same tory/daily mail readers that bang on about state intervention in peoples lives and "big" govenment.

What people do with their own lives is nothing to do with anyone else. As long as their not harming other people then what is the problem? It stupid laws that criminalise people.

When mankind evolved from the primeval ooze he did the following:

found food
found shelter
made fire
got off his/her head

its always happened and it always will. FACT!!!!


G
 

kBm

Distinguished Member
lol smoking cannabis makes you a junkie since when, minimum 5 years for having it :rotfl: i think there is more to worry about than weed smokers, how about alcoholics drink driving ect, remember no one has died from a cannabis overdose compared to how many drunks have died or killed someone behind the wheel? people frown on it because they dont understand it, and the goverment allow it because it makes them a fortune,

The idea is to stop young peope getting into it/ using it, to avoid trying harder drugs down the line, and to stop the destructive metal illnesses that are associated with use.

Its not rocket science.
 

SyStemDeMoN

Distinguished Member
For all those people who oppose cannabis, then you should try watching "Totaly Baked - A pot-u-mentory".

Its class. Remeber when the US banned beer ? More people started drinking!

Perhaps we should legalise it, get some tourism over here. I know we get some tourism, but a few "coffee shops" around and bang! more jobs, more tourists and everyones happy.

I for one, do not like the government telling me that they are protecting me from myself. If people want to take drugs (that means ALL drugs, caffine, nicotine, serious AV equipment, etc, etc) then good luck to them. They will prolly die quicker and help reduce the population.

When something like a drug is legalised, there is more education on it. We are told at school what smoking and drinking does, but very little FACTUAL knowledge is taught about certain drugs in school.

Legalise the lot, then help stupid people quit. They do it with smoking and drinking. Next will be the anti junk food campaigns, with pizza palaces being illegal.
 

Gary D

Distinguished Member
The idea is to stop young peope getting into it/ using it, to avoid trying harder drugs down the line, and to stop the destructive metal illnesses that are associated with use.

Its not rocket science.

hey if you wait long enough people will always talk about the "drugs ladder" another myth peddled by the ill informed. As for the mental illness issue why is that? because the whole business is unregulated and has been allowed to progress without any checks or balances. I'm sure if you banned alcohol then illegal "stills" would crop up all over the country with super strength spirits been brewed in back bedrooms and sheds far beyond exceptable limits.

I should state at this point that in the late 90's i worked as a drugs councillor in a residential rehab - so i'm coming at this from a basis of experiance and education, and not the pages of the daily mail or the "red tops". People who use cannabis do not automatically move onto other drugs - its not a career you know!! Just because someone drinks beer doesn't mean that they will start hammering spirits. If they do its because they have a problem with alcohol - its not an automatic progression.

If cannabis users do move on to harder drugs its because they are exposed to them by dealers because of current drugs policy.

I'm not arguing that drugs to do not cause problems because they do and i've seen the wreckage of some peoples lives. However just because some people have a problem doesn't mean that the majority do.

Because a few have a problem it affects everybody else. Alcohol isn't banned because a relative minority have a problem.

My own personal view is that all drugs should be legal, brushing it under the carpet never works and it never has. Its part of the human condition to get high it always has been and it always will be.

The problem with drugs policy in this country (and many others) is that policy is not even allowed to be discussed without the ill informed throwing their arms up in the air and saying that the world will go to hell in a handcart. Do you know that? and what evidence can you provide that it will - the swiss experiment with Class A drugs as worked and the Dutch do not have problem with drug use - but they do have a problem with "drug tourism".

one of the definitions of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Current drugs policy has clearly failed - yet the alternatives are not even allowed to be discussed.


G
 

Bill Hicks

Banned
hey if you wait long enough people will always talk about the "drugs ladder" another myth peddled by the ill informed. As for the mental illness issue why is that? because the whole business is unregulated and has been allowed to progress without any checks or balances. I'm sure if you banned alcohol then illegal "stills" would crop up all over the country with super strength spirits been brewed in back bedrooms and sheds far beyond exceptable limits.

I should state at this point that in the late 90's i worked as a drugs councillor in a residential rehab - so i'm coming at this from a basis of experiance and education, and not the pages of the daily mail or the "red tops". People who use cannabis do not automatically move onto other drugs - its not a career you know!! Just because someone drinks beer doesn't mean that they will start hammering spirits. If they do its because they have a problem with alcohol - its not an automatic progression.

If cannabis users do move on to harder drugs its because they are exposed to them by dealers because of current drugs policy.

I'm not arguing that drugs to do not cause problems because they do and i've seen the wreckage of some peoples lives. However just because some people have a problem doesn't mean that the majority do.

Because a few have a problem it affects everybody else. Alcohol isn't banned because a relative minority have a problem.

My own personal view is that all drugs should be legal, brushing it under the carpet never works and it never has. Its part of the human condition to get high it always has been and it always will be.

The problem with drugs policy in this country (and many others) is that policy is not even allowed to be discussed without the ill informed throwing their arms up in the air and saying that the world will go to hell in a handcart. Do you know that? and what evidence can you provide that it will - the swiss experiment with Class A drugs as worked and the Dutch do not have problem with drug use - but they do have a problem with "drug tourism".

one of the definitions of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Current drugs policy has clearly failed - yet the alternatives are not even allowed to be discussed.


G

Wow! Like I totally agree with what you just said there man!
Now where did those chocolate cookies go? :zonked:
 

SyStemDeMoN

Distinguished Member
hey if you wait long enough people will always talk about the "drugs ladder" another myth peddled by the ill informed. As for the mental illness issue why is that? because the whole business is unregulated and has been allowed to progress without any checks or balances. I'm sure if you banned alcohol then illegal "stills" would crop up all over the country with super strength spirits been brewed in back bedrooms and sheds far beyond exceptable limits.

I should state at this point that in the late 90's i worked as a drugs councillor in a residential rehab - so i'm coming at this from a basis of experiance and education, and not the pages of the daily mail or the "red tops". People who use cannabis do not automatically move onto other drugs - its not a career you know!! Just because someone drinks beer doesn't mean that they will start hammering spirits. If they do its because they have a problem with alcohol - its not an automatic progression.

If cannabis users do move on to harder drugs its because they are exposed to them by dealers because of current drugs policy.

I'm not arguing that drugs to do not cause problems because they do and i've seen the wreckage of some peoples lives. However just because some people have a problem doesn't mean that the majority do.

Because a few have a problem it affects everybody else. Alcohol isn't banned because a relative minority have a problem.

My own personal view is that all drugs should be legal, brushing it under the carpet never works and it never has. Its part of the human condition to get high it always has been and it always will be.

The problem with drugs policy in this country (and many others) is that policy is not even allowed to be discussed without the ill informed throwing their arms up in the air and saying that the world will go to hell in a handcart. Do you know that? and what evidence can you provide that it will - the swiss experiment with Class A drugs as worked and the Dutch do not have problem with drug use - but they do have a problem with "drug tourism".

one of the definitions of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Current drugs policy has clearly failed - yet the alternatives are not even allowed to be discussed.


G

Yeh, what he said!

If cannabis was to be a gateway drug then it is because the average pothead cannot get his/her weed without visiting a rather shadey character who is only trying to make some tax free cash (Another thing legalisation would solve). This guy will probably try and make some more cash from some harder and more expensive drugs.

Now if it was shop based, and government approved, then you would never have to see these folk. The masses that sit on the dole and make more money than I do selling drugs would for once REALLY BE OUT OF A JOB!
The local pot head would no longer have to associate with seeded types.

And heroin would be a lot safer if it was legal. Morphine for example.
 

Bill Hicks

Banned
And for all those that still support the escalating ladder theory, how about banning free choice, cos we all know that that leads on to smoking cigarettes that lead on smoking cannabis, that leads onto heroin & Cocaine, that ultimately leads onto Cake & Czech neck!
:eek:
 
D

Deleted member 51156

Guest
Yeh, what he said!

If cannabis was to be a gateway drug then it is because the average pothead cannot get his/her weed without visiting a rather shadey character who is only trying to make some tax free cash (Another thing legalisation would solve). This guy will probably try and make some more cash from some harder and more expensive drugs.

Now if it was shop based, and government approved, then you would never have to see these folk. The masses that sit on the dole and make more money than I do selling drugs would for once REALLY BE OUT OF A JOB!
The local pot head would no longer have to associate with seeded types.

And heroin would be a lot safer if it was legal. Morphine for example.


Yeah all the people invovled in large scale drug importation are going to go get a job at tesco's and join the rest of us as wage slaves .
:suicide:
 

eric pisch

Distinguished Member
And for all those that still support the escalating ladder theory, how about banning free choice, cos we all know that that leads on to smoking cigarettes that lead on smoking cannabis, that leads onto heroin & Cocaine, that ultimately leads onto Cake & Czech neck!
:eek:

depends on the person and there personality but for alot they do go on to try other drugs after using cannabis, its a simple fact im afraid.
 

Gary D

Distinguished Member
depends on the person and there personality but for alot they do go on to try other drugs after using cannabis, its a simple fact im afraid.

is it a FACT? do you have any evidence to support that? if it is please post it i'd be happy to read it.

G
 

loz

Distinguished Member
Yes. Well said Gary D.

The government needs to recognise there are two different, but related problems.

1. a health problem caused by taking drugs
2. a criminal problem caused by the supply of drugs

2 currently seems to have a bigger impact on society than 1 in more than just health - i.e. crime. It also helps create the health problem due to drugs being pushed. The business model of the pusher is to create users.

So legalise it and get rid of 2, and then spend the money on education, and improving the quality of legalized recreational drugs to minimise side effects.

Then we can all be happy. :thumbsup:
 

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