Hooray! I finally took the plunge and upgraded from my ageing Toshiba rear projector. For a while the Ellie was top of the running but eventually I dared to go the second hand route seeing as you all seem to rate Roland so highly. If it weren't for your recommendation I wouldn't have dared go second hand. Well, he didn't let me down. I have a Barco 801s mounted on the ceiling and a 7 foot screen painted on the wall framed with black wood and a VSE20 lido. The results are every bit as astonishing as you all keep declaring about CRT. Two feet away from the screen and I cannot see a single dot or scanline. I might just as well be at the cinema. And Roland calls this miracle "half installed" and is coming back later to do the final convergence and sizing/tweaking. Even my wife is declaring that it is like watching completely different films, you notice detail in the backgrounds you don't normally see. The first evening I didn't get near it. She and a friend watched "An Affair to Remember" (some old Cary Grant chick's movie) and they had an absolute ball. I was up to 3 am re-watching all my favourite clips. So thanks everybody for recommending Roland. Unbelieveable. Best video sequence for demos is what I call "the egg flight" at the start of Disney's "Dinosaur". Incidentally, leads do make a difference. I put a snazzy one on the VHS and the resultant improvement was instantly visible. Once you go front projection at this size there is no going back.