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Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by docfeelgood, Dec 12, 2003.

  1. docfeelgood

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    Hi all

    I've currently got:

    Quad 11L (front three)
    Tosh SD330 DVD player
    Sony DB940 receiver
    MA BFX rears
    Rel Q200e sub.
    Silver aniv single for front three.
    QED micro single for rears.

    I want better HIFI to make the most of the quads.

    I'm happy with the surround sound I get but it's not good enough for music.

    Not sure what to do.

    I'd really like a dedicated HIFI amp and CD player. People have said this will make a big difference.

    But how do I integrate this with my receiver for home cinema use ?

    .. or do I get a better DVD player and/or receiver?

    I guess it's better to have dedicated Hifi... not sure tho.

    I need to do some dems but would like some general advice first to push me down the best path.

    How do I integrate a HIFI amp and cd player and front two speakers into a home cinema setup without:

    1. Sacrificing sound quality.
    2. Making it fiddly to use... i.e. having to set balance volume on hifi amp with home cinema receiver every time I want to use it?

    phew :)

    Glad that's off me chest!

    any advice or suggestions would really be appreciated.

    xmas regards

    :confused:

    Doc
     
  2. MarkE19

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    This will make a big difference to music.
    What you need to do is plug CD (and any other sterio music equipment) into a HiFi amp. Plug the main left/right speakers into the HiFi amp.
    For AV you connect the pre-outs on the DB940 for L/R into an input on the HiFi amp. The HiFi amp then receives the AV signal for a DVD etc.

    As described above but,

    1. This will improve the sound for music, subject to the quality of the HiFi equipment.
    2. To make it easy you need to spend a bit more on the HiFi amp and get one with a proccessor mode. This means that when useing the system for AV the receiver will control the volume for all your speakers. When set for HiFi the receiver is switched off and just the HiFi amp used as you would on a normal HiFi system.

    I think most, if not all Arcam amps have the proccessor mode, as do many other makes.
    This is the way my system is set up and the improvement from just useing my 3802 was massive and well worth the extra money IMHO.

    Hope this helps,
    Mark.
     
  3. docfeelgood

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    Thanks for the help matey :)

    Can you recommend a CD / Amp (with processor mode).

    Didn't want to spend more than £800.

    What can I get for that?

    regards

    Doc.
     
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    I picked up my Arcam cd72t for £375 and my Arcam A75+ integrated amp for £395 about 8 months ago so you should be able to find a bit cheaper now. Both complemented my av set up (also the denon avr3802) well and gave a real performance boost when listening to music.
    You should be able to pick up well within your price range.


    ps. the good thing about the CD72/3T is it offers an upgrade path to the CD82T (costs £200)and CD93t (costs £550 from cd72/3) if you wish to at a later date. (when funds permit). This was what clenched it for me at the time of purchasing.
     
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    I have to agree with Hawklord (look at my sig below and you'll see why!).

    The CD73t costs £400 new or you should be able to pick up a CD72t for around £300 s/h.
    I got my 8R & 8P amps for £200 the pair s/h and these are great and the 8R does have the proccessor mode. They are always available on Ebay, but prices vary by quiet a lot, but you should be able to get them or even a newer Arcam within your budget.
    TBH I'm not sure who else makes amps with the proc mode.

    Mark.
     
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    Bought the CD73t and A75+
    :)

    Quick question... the A75+ is no longer on Arcam's website as it is discontinued.

    Why was this?

    .. and how does it compare to the A80 and A65+ ?

    thanks and regards

    Doc.
     
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    A75+ was replaced by the A80+. A65+ is their entry level model.
     
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    I guess then that, performance wise, it's somewhere in between the 65 and the 80 in terms of sound quality?
     
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    I would personally go for the A80 over the A65. The A65 has less power (40W) and a more modest power supply. The A80 has 65W with a more substantial power supply (my p75 has 50W). If you can afford the A85 then that'd be even better imo (you can never have too much power lol). It Maybe best to go and audition each with your front speakers to see what the benefits are over cost involved.
     
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    I would agree with most of the above. The best current options from Arcam at the moment are the A80 and the CD73 which will set you back £1000 in total, although you should be able to get a deal on buying both together. These two products will give you a huge leap in stereo performance over what you are using.
     

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