Noise in old songs...

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
Is there any software method of eliminating noise which is present in some old music?

e.g.

clear noise coming from the left speaker. I've double checked and triple checked on multiple devices and its in the source material. just a bit frustrating sometimes..
 

kbfern

Distinguished Member
Don't bother get the Hans Zimmer live in Prague Bluray in Atmos and be blow away :D

Amazon product
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
Don't bother get the Hans Zimmer live in Prague Bluray in Atmos and be blow away :D

Amazon product



holy crap.. just itunes it and its amazing.. :D

would still like a clean original version tho.. lol..
 

gibbsy

Moderator
Live in Prague is certainly a brilliant disc. Audio wise I don't think you'll find a better one. Has the theme from True Romance as a bonus. Plenty of good CDs of Zimmer's back catalogue available as well.
 

Conrad

Moderator
What noise are you referring to, is it almost background noise?
I had a listen to this version and the original score on Spotify and it doesn't appear to be on the Spotify version so maybe it's the rip?
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
What noise are you referring to, is it almost background noise?
I had a listen to this version and the original score on Spotify and it doesn't appear to be on the Spotify version so maybe it's the rip?


its the background noise coming from left channel. Its like static noise. its present on the youtube link I posted and on the song on apple music. I'll try the spotify version.

I do have the song fairly loud
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
What noise are you referring to, is it almost background noise?
I had a listen to this version and the original score on Spotify and it doesn't appear to be on the Spotify version so maybe it's the rip?

i think maybe ur listening at a sensible volume.. crank it up and u should easily be able to hear it.
im listening -10db.

i just tried listening to it at a normal volume and its not as easily audible.
i can hear it clearly at loud volume on LG TV speakers and Arendals via the denon.

checked spotify version.. its definitely there. left channel worse.
 

Conrad

Moderator
You're correct. I had two things against me:

1) I wasn't listening very loud, turning it up makes it much worse
2) I'd forgotten that my office speakers (which are behind me when I'm sat at my desk) are reversed, so the left speaker is actually the right channel!

It's in the Spotify track too. We need a Dolby NR button like we used to have with tapes! Well, I used to have them, don't know about you lot.
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
You're correct. I had two things against me:

1) I wasn't listening very loud, turning it up makes it much worse
2) I'd forgotten that my office speakers (which are behind me when I'm sat at my desk) are reversed, so the left speaker is actually the right channel!

It's in the Spotify track too. We need a Dolby NR button like we used to have with tapes! Well, I used to have them, don't know about you lot.

Haha. I think NVIDIA have an AMAZING AI based noise reduction algorithm but they don't share it with anyone but their gamers.

I find for such an iconic sound, the noise is pretty bad which sucks. Maybe I'm being picky or it was artists intent but it doesn't sound right o me with noise.

It feels like they ripped it straight from the film and took out the voices and left the subsequent noise in tbh.. lol.
 

MI55ION

Distinguished Member
i think maybe ur listening at a sensible volume.. crank it up and u should easily be able to hear it.
im listening -10db.

i just tried listening to it at a normal volume and its not as easily audible.
i can hear it clearly at loud volume on LG TV speakers and Arendals via the denon.

checked spotify version.. its definitely there. left channel worse.

You're right, its there on both channels. I just had to increase volume. Its more obvious in the quieter passages. Its an analogue tape-like hiss which im guessing was present in the master. Just skipped over some of the other songs from the album and most of them (not all) have got it too. Its probably an unintentional artifact from whatever recording studio they used to produce the music. It isn't an unpleasant sound so doesn't seem to bother me.
 

Conrad

Moderator
I just had a listen to a couple of flac versions and they're the same, I guess it's in the original file.

So here's what I just tried which "worked".
Using JRiver, open up the DSP Studio
Grab a free copy of denoiser from here: Bertom Audio, import it in to Jriver using the Manage Plug-ins button
Fiddle with the settings to filter out the noise, here's what I used after some playing:

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Not perfect as it affects the original sound, but it sounds a lot better. Cleaner. Better is very subjective.
 

Conrad

Moderator
It might even be deliberate. The movie has a slight lo-fi vibe.
Or it could just be an artefact of a tape master as @MI55ION quite rightly says.
 

MI55ION

Distinguished Member
You might be right @Conrad. Tarantino has a habit of producing gritty movies so it could indeed be intentional. Not sure why some of the other songs are 'clean' though. I'd assume they were recorded elsewhere.
 

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