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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by JoeF2k2, May 8, 2009.

  1. JoeF2k2

    JoeF2k2 Banned

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    does anyone know if i can use no more nails to put a mirror up on a plasterboarded wall in the bathroom?
     
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    If i were you, get some Pink Grip.
    Similar but MUCH stronger.
    Used it for my splashback in kitchen.
    Just check both surfaces are ok to use with it.

    Oh.. and hope you never have to take the mirror down again.


    http://www.cglass.co.uk/pink-grip-pr-17556.html
     
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    YES. it will work. When you put the mirror on stick some nails at the bottom of the mirror to let the adhesive dry/go off. Once thats done you can hang off it.
    I have stuck a mirror ( 3ftx4ft) to plaster board using it and its still going strong after 3 years :thumbsup:
     
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    Like ant says, if you put it up using a strong adhesive you have to accept that you're not getting it back down without a hell of a mess. What happen if someone accidentally cracks it? IMO it would be better to mount it so you can take it down easily.
     
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    Another option, which sounds little odd, is some of that super strong velco sellotape like strips or patches. Can hold a fair few kg each and easier to detach/clean etc.

    We have some holding up a couple of notice boards.
     
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    Give it a go...it's only 7 years if it doesn't work!

    If it is just the mirror glass you could also try tile adhesive?
     
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    Don't use tile adhesive, back of a mirror is not porous like a tile.
     
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    I tried to use mirror adhesive in our downstairs shower room, but unfortunately I discovered that my plasterboarding wasn't good enough and it wasn't flat. Due to the outwards curve the mirror wouldn't sit flat against the wall, so I had to take it down before the adhesive set. I then used the mirror clips that are sprung for the top positions and it was much easier, plus if I ever need to take the mirror down it will be a 5 minute job. :thumbsup:

    I do use no more nails for other jobs though as it can be handy when you don't want to spoil a finish by putting a nail through it, like the Oak skirting boards in my living room. :smashin:
     
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    I thought it was best to use the thin double-sided sticky sponges to attach mirrors.

    You dont want to attach it too rigidly to plasterboard because the mirror will crack if the wall flexs.

    The spongy pads give isolation from any movement in the wall.

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
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    well it would be better than trying to use normal nails :eek:
     
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    Yes, do it NOW before the lottery tonight :)
     
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    Got 2 IKEA mirrors to put up on bedroom wall is there something similar to use??
     
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    no more nails should never be used for anything, there is always a better alternative.
     
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    Sticks like **** works pretty well. It's not a ronseal product iirc, but the same slogan applies. Quoting the actual name of the product is likely to get me a ticking off from the mods (well, those of them that don't use the * key themselves) unfortunately.
     
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    Put a mirror on the wall with some B&M double sided foam tape, ain't going anywhere
     
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    No: you should use special mirror adhesive, which is like NMN but formulated so as not to attack the silvering. Using NMN or normal foam pads (I think you can get special pads to do the job) will eventually destroy the silvering and show through.
     
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    How long will it take for it to show through? If it's 10+years not concerned.
     
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    i have a tube of no more nails and it does say in the small print Not suitable for mirrors. Either it will damage the silver foil or they are just superstitious.
     
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    the best thing to use is LOW modules silicone , we use this at work just dont use the normal stuff as you will see the lines through the mirror
     
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    I used this, or something similar which I can't remember the name of.

    The mirror is 5' x 3' too!
     
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    imop the blue peter badge should get Revoked.
     
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    100% agree it comes in exactly the same type tube for about the same price why not buy the correct stuff.

    i had a mirror the same size as an entire wall put in and thats why they used
     
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    I suppose if it's an expensive mirror sure....mine was just a 14" round one from argos.
     
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    Just a few considerations to think about when you are sticking things like mirrors to walls:

    Are you sticking something to the wall or to the paint or other surface on the wall?

    Is this paint or other surface likely to detach itself from the wall after you have stuck something to it?

    eg, I'd like you to think about sticking something to the paint that is already peeling off the wall. Not a good idea, is it?

    Similarly with wallpaper that could get damp and begin to peel off the wall. It's not a good idea to stick something to a wall covered in that, is it?

    And how about covering the entire rear surface of a mirror with an adhesive film of wide cello-tape, so that if it ever gets broken all the bits of mirror stay stuck to the cello-tape? (This idea is used for those massive sliding door mirror wardrobes , such as they sell in B&Q and Homebase)

    Could you usefully soundly fix anything (eg, an aluminium, chromed, brass effect or plastic bar or strip) to the wall underneath the heavy object (ie, mirror) that you want to stick to the wall to help support its weight and thus make the whole thing a safer fix?

    If the mirror is large could you soundly fix something to the wall above it so that it has absolutely no chance of falling forwards and then dropping off if it comes unstuck?

    Have you seen these fairly cheap Fischer Mirror Fixing Kit fittings?
     
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    But that is a poor surface to stick to as well, just as you said don't stick to paint or wallpaper, then applying glue to a smooth surface like film isn't a good idea? Should be on the glass itself.
     
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    For safety, the cello-tape (or similar) should be applied to the mirror silvering on the entire reverse surface of the mirror.

    Correct!

    Just supposing someone bangs their head against the mirror....

    If it has got a safety film on the reverse surface then any lacerations are going to be minimal.

    If there is no safety film on the reverse surface of the mirror then the lacerations if there are any,. could be quite severe and also shards of glass could end up dropping from a height onto, well, goodness knows what!

    So...generally speaking....it's not a brilliantly good idea to merely stick a mirror onto a wall.

    (I'm trying hard not to be too damn patronising about it)
     
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    One correct way, with minimally visible fittings, is:

    1. Stick something like adhesive 'Fablon' to the entire reverse surface of the mirror.

    2. Fix the mirror to the wall with proper fittings, such as Fischer Clips.
     
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    Another acceptable way, would be to fix a pre-finished board to the wall with screws and plugs. Then fix the adhesive film backed mirror to the board with proper clips such as Fischer Clips
     
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    Then how do you have the film, with the adhesive on the mirror?

    Removed the plastic film as isn't a good surface to stick that to.

    I doubt it'll break and if it does it'll be held on by the lengths of foam tape. And I do, it'll be my own faulty for being clumsy.
     
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    I use normal cheap mastic. Stuck many things and not had a problem. Kitchen fitter used it to stick splash backs...no probs years later
     

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