No Disney (or Fox) HD-DVD Support Being Announced at CES

lfletcher

Well-known Member
Well not according to thedigitalbits,

"Okay... now for a bit of high-def news. I said on Friday that you can expect some major title announcements at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in January. Well, I wasn't kidding and we've got a bit of follow-up for you.

I've just spoken today with Eric Maehara, VP of Communications for Buena Vista Home Entertainment. He informed me that the studio is planning to announce a MAJOR Blu-ray Disc release line-up for the first half of 2007 at CES. In addition, he reiterated to me in no uncertain terms that BVHE has no plans to support HD-DVD, despite persistent online rumors to the contrary.

I've also spoken this afternoon with Steve Feldstein, Senior VP of Corporate and Marketing Communications for 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment. He likewise confirmed that Fox has no plans to support HD-DVD, and that the studio will also be announcing additional Blu-ray Disc titles at CES.

Paramount's Senior VP for Worldwide DVD Production, Jeff Radoycis, has informed me that the studio is currently focusing on new release titles, but is also busy evaluating a number of major catalog titles for their readiness to be released on HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc in the year ahead. The studio definitely expects to continue supporting both high-def formats equally in 2007.

And on Friday afternoon I spoke with a press representative of New Line Home Entertainment regarding their future high-def releases. The latest official word is that the studio is currently still evaluating their plans as far as which format(s) they might support and what titles they might want to release. For now, don't expect anything from them on either format until probably mid-2007.

We've got follow-up inquiries in to Warner, Universal and Sony with regard to their forthcoming high-def announcement plans, in particular whether they plan any major announcements at CES or not. We'll post the details of their responses as soon as they come in."
 
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Peter Galbavy

Guest
Yeah, but these folks go where the perceived profits will be. Either the upfront margin from sales of the product or the secondary profits from patent and licensing revenue. Once the cross licensing begins (which it will, the question is simply when) then the studios will just take the same old data files and ship 'em on the new format.

My understanding is that there is enough overlap of codecs (both video and audio) to make this simply an issue of re-authoring the menu systems... but please feel free to get technical on me. The more info, the merrier.
 

Spoonhead

Well-known Member
Very diappointing but on reflection hardly surprising. They probably now want to assess the impact of the PS3 into 2007 and how their new releases might change their market share. I'm sure if HD-DVD continue it's dominence, they will have to re-assess, but I'm sure they want to give Blu-ray more time. These organisations will have short, medium and long plans. They aren't going to change these overnight on the basis of current sales, which for both formats are hardly large.

Gazza
 

Nic Rhodes

Well-known Member
I think many people expectations were way too high wrt CES announcements, hopefully this will dampen the 'flames' down a bit to realistic levels.
 

rover2002

Novice Member
lfletcher said:
No Disney (or Fox) HD-DVD Support Being Announced at CES
Disney make decisions for Disney not the VP of Communications for Buena Vista Home Entertainment !
Fox not going HD-DVD is not news, who in there right mind thought that was going to happen? there is more chance of Universal going neutral :)
 

lfletcher

Well-known Member
Disney make decisions for Disney not the VP of Communications for Buena Vista Home Entertainment !
Fox not going HD-DVD is not news, who in there right mind thought that was going to happen? there is more chance of Universal going neutral :)
Did you actually read the post? This bit "Eric Maehara, VP of Communications for Buena Vista Home Entertainment" should indicate that it was a Buena Vista decision, not solely Disney. I apologize if the thread title wasn't expansive enough.
I know Fox isn't news, but the expectation round here seems to indicate that practically every studio bar Sony are about to jump on the HD-DVD wagon, this just disproves that, and might stop the constant Disney (Buena Vista ;) ) rumors and speculation.
 

rover2002

Novice Member
You imply that the VP of Communications for Buena Vista Home Entertainment speaks on behalf of Disney.Maybe you could link us to a your source that states 'Buena Vista Home Entertainment' speaks on behalf of Disney?
 

DocDVD

Active Member
Well, not very surprising considering that Fox and Disney/BV never cared about what their customers want before.
:thumbsdow

Well, I placed nearly all SD-DVD purchases on hold - either I'll go for the HD-DVD or I'll wait until I can get a real must-have title (not many there) at a sale.

So, no big money for Fox or Disney from me anymore.
 

ianh64

Novice Member
I was a Vice President of the largest bank in the world and the term VP or SVP for that matter means squat. Its an Americanism that basically is for lower to middle management. Even the janitor was a RVP - Resident Vice President. In my position I would not have been privvy to much information at all, especially to future policy.

Unless the names of the people that you have dropped are directly responsible for the policy, the fact that they are VP or SVP in a company means nothing.
 

nehalem

Novice Member
I was a Vice President of the largest bank in the world and the term VP or SVP for that matter means squat. Its an Americanism that basically is for lower to middle management. Even the janitor was a RVP - Resident Vice President. In my position I would not have been privvy to much information at all, especially to future policy.

Unless the names of the people that you have dropped are directly responsible for the policy, the fact that they are VP or SVP in a company means nothing.

Never knew that - probably the most interesting thing I have leant today :smashin:
 

andythescientis

Active Member
I'd have thought disney would be the last (other than sony) to consider going dual format. Disney = kids films = PS3, going by fox's statement that XM3 = PS3 demographic.

CES is january, which also means it's far to early have any impact from xmas sales. Surely CES plans would have been in place at least 2 months ago? Hardly going to have had time to be affected by the botched PS3 launch.

Isn't the point of this whole debate that HD-DVD is doing pretty well without the exclusive studio's? I think that speaks volumes for the technology and the consumer support it appears to have won over the last 6 months. And has certainly taken me from the HD-DVD has'nt got a chance, to the wow HD-DVD might just have done enough to guarantee it's future brigade. As i've said many times, i'm not an AV expert, i just like watching movies at home. I've little to no experience of either format other than reading many peoples opinions on the subject. But it's not hard to detect who's on the offensive and who's looking very scared at the moment. Both on these boards and in the real world outside.

ohh and i agree these stupid americanisms like VPs, chiefs and officers are a joke. Everyone one and their dog is a president of something, or a chief paperclips officer.
 
They would not tell you if they were thinking of releasing titles on HD-DVD anyway. It would effect the sales of their Blue-Ray products, because people would wait for the HD-DVD releases instead of buying a Blue-Ray player. They would first test the Blue-Ray water, then if that deems unprofitable, then switch to HD-DVD. This could be a long wait however.
 

Spoonhead

Well-known Member
They would not tell you if they were thinking of releasing titles on HD-DVD anyway. It would effect the sales of their Blue-Ray products, because people would wait for the HD-DVD releases instead of buying a Blue-Ray player. They would first test the Blue-Ray water, then if that deems unprofitable, then switch to HD-DVD. This could be a long wait however.

Exactly
 

lfletcher

Well-known Member
You imply that the VP of Communications for Buena Vista Home Entertainment speaks on behalf of Disney.Maybe you could link us to a your source that states 'Buena Vista Home Entertainment' speaks on behalf of Disney?
I can't, just posting what I found from thedigitalbits. Perhaps you could post your link where it states that Buena Vista Home Entertainment don't speak on behalf of Disney, or vice versa? Or perhaps one where Disney, Buena Vista or even Walt Disney Home Entertainment state that they are going to release HD-DVD product?

Perhaps you could also explain to me why in this press release http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s.../Disney/Disney_Unveils_Third_Blu-ray_Wave/225 or the press releases on this site http://video.movies.go.com/bluray/index.html they appear to be announcing films from both Buena Vista (Flight Plan, CasaNova) and Walt Disney Home Entertainment (Pearl Harbor, Sky High, The Wild)? Surely if these two companies cannot speak on behalf of each other why would they issue joint press releases?

What point are you trying to prove? That Disney will release product on HD-DVD, but Buena Vista won't? :rolleyes:
 

StooMonster

Well-known Member
I was a Vice President of the largest bank in the world and the term VP or SVP for that matter means squat. Its an Americanism that basically is for lower to middle management. Even the janitor was a RVP - Resident Vice President. In my position I would not have been privvy to much information at all, especially to future policy.

Unless the names of the people that you have dropped are directly responsible for the policy, the fact that they are VP or SVP in a company means nothing.
Then you'll know that VP/ Vice-President comes from the history of banking in the USA. Where back in the 1800s it was made federal law that loan applications could only be approved by 'officers of the company', the idea being that debt was serious so it needed someone high up in bank to sign it off. Of course what happened was simply that all the banks made everyone vice-presidents, as no limit was specified on how many VPs an institution could have.

Niccolò Machiavelli, in his book The Prince, discussed how you can give people big titles and same money and they'll be happy because of perceived change in status, which goes someway to explaing the spread of term vice-president to other industries.

Trivia of the day. :lesson:

If you want someone with (some) real corporate power look for Executive Vice President, or Chief of something. ;)

StooMonster
 
If you want someone with (some) real corporate power look for Executive Vice President, or Chief of something. ;)

StooMonster

And then listen to the lies...lol!
 

Angry the Clown

Novice Member
Fox and Disney are hardly going to abandon bullying tactics before getting the chance to put them into practice. I don’t mean to use the term bullying as a slur upon Blu Ray, but they know the quality of their libraries, and there’s no doubt good reason content released in 2006 on the format has been largely made up of pretty rubbish films. If its exclusive backers are going to finally start throwing some major catalogue titles into the ring starting with, as rumours suggest, a flood of AAA announcements at CES, then we’re really going to finally be diving headstrong into round 2.

Fact is, pending how serious Blu Ray’s exclusive backers are about putting effort into the quality of their releases, and the type of movies they choose to release, if they stop constantly looking to release movies to arouse fourteen year old boys they can start waving the likes of the odd animated catalogue title, Alien, Sound of Music, Moulin Rouge and Bond films (even if just Casino Royale to begin with)…etc in peoples faces and in seeing those, and knowing that Paramount and Warner support is neutral, any self respecting film fan might find such a large library of classics hard to resist – and there’d be no shame in that as at the end of the day as film fans, we should all be hoping for our favourites being handed to us in the best quality possible. People just have to accept that being taunted with exclusive major title content for a while is, in 2007, going to be the greatest tactic these studios use in trying to make all of us buy into their format of choice. Success in this respect does not remain an inevitability however. Like I say, Sony, Disney, Fox and MGM still need to put as much effort into their releases as Warner, Paramount (and on HD DVD Universal) are seen to be doing, especially if they’re trying to coax people over into paying up for the premium priced format.

There’s certainly potential for Blu Ray to have more to shout about at CES than HD DVD might have, despite the decent year HD DVD has had in comparison to its competitor. It’ll be an interesting year ahead, albeit another messy one for the formats.
 
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Jonny1973

Guest
Maybe Pirates of the Carribean or some Pixar titles like Toy Story.
 

Angry the Clown

Novice Member
Anyone want to take bets on what "big" films BV could release?

You mean announce at CES?

Pirates of the Caribbean, albeit probably only the first one, I think will blatantly be one of them, given it's due in Japan in early 07 and that BVHE are already using it in their US Blu Ray promotional material (online and in print) even going so far as to show the box art for it.

They might toss in an animated catalogue title or two. Difficult to judge if they'll throw such important content out there so early in the new year. I know their Blu Ray preview on the Cars DVD lists a number of classics ‘coming’ to Blu Ray, but it’s so vague its impossible to get a sense of a timetable for them and we all know how Disney cling to their animated library until they know they can make good money out of such titles. That said, they may well accept releasing some of those titles sooner than they’d like might do their format of choice a favour and attract more customers. The thought of Finding Nemo in 1080p with 24bit lossless audio is not something I’d ignore lightly.

Their idea of big for now might only extend to more overblown loud nonsense like Armageddon and so on though... I hope not. I’d like to hear some Miramax content announced by Disney (Pulp Fiction, English Patient and so on). Again, get out of this movies for teens rut they, Fox and Sony seem so firmly stuck in at the moment.
 

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