Maybe cut the stars wages will be a start, some people n this world are earning obscene amounts of money, maybe get into the real world if costs are cut.Leave it to WB to make the worst possible decision...
I should probably explain that as I've been pretty vocal on here about Disney+ showing Mulan as a good thing. To be clear: offering an alternative route to see big releases is, by and large, a good thing. It expands the potential audience, gets more eyes on a film and might just help films that would otherwise get swamped by the latest big film (witness the godawful scramble to get the hell away from Endgame last year). Plus, well, pandemic...
But not for free. Not day and date. Now as a paying punter of course extra value is a good thing but we've *seen* what happens when customers start viewing free / cheap as the norm. Just witness the PC gaming market and the madness of Steam sales a few years back that dropped prices on relatively recent AAA titles down to a fiver or less. That's a hole PC gaming has yet to climb out of as people came to consider that sale price the 'fair' price and didn't bother biting any earlier.
My worry here is this doesn't just affect WB. After all these are big tentpole movies with wide audiences... well, hopefully anyway. If the idea takes route that you should be able to see them at home for the price of a HBO Max sub *on the day of theatrical release* that really will be a body blow to cinema. More importantly, perhaps, is how the hell you make films with $100m+ budgets (and that's on the cheap end) viable on a $15 a month subscription service with no lock-in.
Really hope that worry is unfounded and this works out for everyone involved. Want nothing more than to be proved wrong on this one!
Topgun !This conversation is in a few threads, so sorry for repeating that I think this is a bold move.
I welcome it now, but I hope it isn't for the long term. As this does have implications in the long run.
Cinema is a unique experience that needs to remain.
On the home viewing note in my opinion this is bad news for us. As HBO Max translates to Sky, and for me Sky/NowTV are the poorest quality of all the services. Even Sky's 4K isn't upto the standard of the other providers for me.
Also not sure how this is going to work sub wise, as Sky requires a contract whereas the others don't. NowTV is 1080p max, and I don't know how Sky Store works without a Sky sub? Someone will know of course.
So for me it's still cinema all the way for these releases.
I welcome it now, but I hope it isn't for the long term.
Probably the only film I’m genuinely gutted was never released this year, can’t believe it’s over 5 months since it should’ve been lit, we would be getting the home release nowIf Paramount somehow bypass the cinema and put Top Gun: Maverick on the small screen first, the world has no idea how much hellfire I will rain down upon this earth.
These agreements are COVID 19 arrangements only that are free flowing as to anything that happens in the future. And I agree with you. Basically this deals been struck to keep cash flow coming in during this pandemic for both the cinema industry and streaming services, of which the cinema industry is going to take a hefty slice of streaming purchases, which is why both parties agreed to it.
I can't imagine what it would be like without any blockbusters on the big screen. A
Anyone in doubt should think about what we get now straight to the likes of Netflix and Amazon. And Sky productions like that Dave Bautista one at the stadium!! Because I think that'd be the frightful future without cinema's!
This still appears to be a US only initiative - Jason Kilar just did an interview and indicated globally it would still be a normal theatrical rollout.
I think in regards to this country, I expect it will be business as usual but I also think the speculation about WW84 and Sky negotiating an early window could be key here - whatever comes out of that (whether it's a PVOD release in a month or a SVOD release on Sky) might give us an idea of a potential model for this country if cinema openings remain erratic going into 2021.
I don’t disagree, and certainly true for something like Wonder Woman, but I’m not convinced we’ll get WW in cinema at this point, it was more a counter to having to wait and pay £20 or more via Sky premium rental in January. Sorry, but WW at home on Xmas day in 4K HDR Atmos via HBO Max, amongst all the other content on HBO Max over the Xmas period, for $15 is worth the punt.No. Thats not the way to go. Cinema is still THE number 1 experience for watching a film/movie and its good to see the studios supporting them with this deal.
I don’t disagree, and certainly true for something like Wonder Woman, but I’m not convinced we’ll get WW in cinema at this point, it was more a counter to having to wait and pay £20 or more via Sky premium rental in January. Sorry, but WW at home on Xmas day in 4K HDR Atmos via HBO Max, amongst all the other content on HBO Max over the Xmas period, for $15 is worth the punt.
There’ll always be blockbusters on the bigscreen, but they make their money now in a 2 week global release window. With the demise of physical media, digital purchases will also get skipped, and each studio or network of studios will get direct subscriptions. There have always been low to mid budget movies that never see the cinema, and were straight to vhs or dvd. Now there’s straight to streaming instead.
Lets say Amazon, Disney, Netflix and AT&T take over the prime location cinemas. They can show premieres of their content 1 month before it hits their streaming platforms, and subscribers can buy a £5 ticket. The lobbies can have merchandise stores, no more expensive high street, or shopping centre stores for Disney or Warner. And they can run special festival type content or franchise weeks, see Die Hard 1&2 on the big screen in the 2 week run up to Christmas, catalogue movies can be big screen special events.