NEWS: Virgin Media testing 8Gbps broadband speeds

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    1. Andy Bassett

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      Just down the road from me. Galling or what. No Virgin broadband in the village
       
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      Nice theory...

      Because there's nothing out there that will come close to saturating it. I'd be surprised if anyone gets more than ~Gbit from most sources. I'm on 330MBit and it's rare that I'm able to saturate that.

      It must be frustrating to be one of the 8 households in the country to have 8Gbit WAN, and rarely see more than 50MB/sec.
       
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      I am currently getting between 386 - 411 Mbps download and 21 Mbps upload speeds, I would like better upload speeds. :) 8 Gbps will do nicely!
       
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      Totally pointless for most consumers despite the fact Virgin will imply that those consumers need such provisision. Most of their current customers don't need the internet provisision they are already paying Virgin for, Maybe Virgin should consentrate on making their current services reliable and indeed affordable instead of trying to create demand for new services that aren't strictly speaking needed?

      I'd be inclined to report Virgin Media for mis-seling.
       
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      But it can't do any harm either. The UK is still miles behind many other countries, TBO for the most part out internet structure is laughable. the biggest white elephant being all the FTTC with knackered lines from cabinet to home. In my area no-one is getting FTTP and the only person I know of getting it has been part of a private purchase system.

      Also, it's everything comes before the ISP that is slow. I'm sure when we get 8K streaming it'll all be worth it ;);)

      Would I pay for it however? Nope. Would I like say 1gb up and down? Yep.
       
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      If you read the article it is designed for the future not for today and a company that plans ahead for the future rather than playing catch-up, will be better placed to deliver when required. (Don’t forget we are beginning to see 10 Gb Network products for the domestic market (Prices are dropping fast) plus way faster Wi-Fi technology’s (Not forgetting the onslaught of 8K TVs) so companies need to adapt to be ready for it)

      Bill
       
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      Harm? So you are suggesting the additional speed will not be costing more for anyone subscribing to it. Far enough if it is free, but I doubt that this will be Virgin's intentions when and or if Virgin Media make it more accessible to wider sections of the population.

      Your last line says it all, especially the introduction to that line. It ain't FREE!

      What’s the point of Virgin Media’s latest broadband speed claim?
       
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      So it will be free in the future then and how long into the future? . Great if you are located somewhere Virgin are trialing this, but this will not be rolled out to all of Virgin Media's existing customers, not without such cistomers havin to pay extra for it. Besides which, who actually needs this? Maybe those pirating UHD films?

      Go to South Korea or Japan and then compare it to what you have here now. It is a joke in this country. How inovative of Virgin Media (Liberty Media) to offer you yesterday's tech and proclaim it something for the future. I've been a Virgin (NTLWorld) customer for over 17 years and simply requested a better (cheaper) deal the other day. They could only suggest I decreas my BB provision to reduce my monthly bill. How about they start decreasing their customers bill's in association with loyalty as opposed to trying to introduce new services I don't need which they would charge me more for?

      Virgin Media can't even rectify the audio dropouts I get in association with their cable TV provision. Why is this of any use to me and why does it make Virgin any more reliable now? I want existing issues resolved now and not hints of what they might do in the future. How much are they spending on the trials and wouldn't this be better spent of replacing their faulty Hub3 modems that are all equipped with chipsets that suffer from latency issues?

      Intel Coughs to Puma CPU Flaw that Hit Virgin Media Hub 3 Router UPDATE - ISPreview UK
       
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      I should also mention that only 8 households actually have access to this and Virgin's network would in all probability grind to a halt had it to handle such bandwidth demands from most of its current customer base. Is 8 houses getting 8GB BB really a newsworthy item?

      It isn't even factual for Virgin to claim that this makes them the fastest in the UK. Hyperoptic, tested speeds of up to 10Gbps in a home in east London almost 12 months ago, which would have made them the fastest in the UK using an existing network rather than a dedicated line.
       
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      And here I am with ADSL from 2001..:confused:
       
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      "download a high-definition film of 5GB in five seconds"

      if your HD film is 5GB, you fudgeed up :p
       
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      It needs pushing but the usual suspects for streaming will remain the same rates. Not being familiar with Virgin, do they have any content that can stream at higher rates to get the improvement?

      Despite having 60 or so mb/s I still get steam coming in at 6 or 7 mb/s for a game download. Netflix will still do 15mb/s and Apple the same rate for whatever they do. Not just the link to the home that needs sorting out.
       
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      It was probably a typo, but I'll use this opportunity to educate others:

      b = bits
      B = Bytes
      8 bits = 1 Byte

      :)
       
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      This education is incomplete without a lesson in base2 vs base10 :D
       
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      I would like 8G/s then not b :)
       
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      While the number of extremely high speed connections in the UK is low, the number of places with a slow connection is also low.

      In Ofcom's international communications market report the UK was ranked 4th out of 18 major countries for the availability of 30Mbps or above.

      So while ultra-high speed connections are rare in the UK compared to other places, you are more likely to be able to get a reasonable connection compared to most countries.

      FTTP rollout should have started after it was first trialled 3-5 years ago, so it's possible we'll fall behind when faster speeds become the norm but the UK's infrastructure does compare favourably in the most important metric of getting everyone a decent connection.

      I believe the actual technology being trialled here is a shared 8Gbps connection, so it's exactly the sort of thing needed to deliver 1Gbps packages in the real world.
       
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      My only grumble with VM is that in 2019, we still have ADSL thinking. It’s nice having beefy download speeds available, but upload speeds are pathetic. Still, the same is true of the other providers too at the moment. I can’t say that I’ve noticed any issues with my VM Hub3 thus far — it seems to work, and both Ethernet and wi-fi connections are fine.

      Clem
       
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      Certainly more information would be interesting for this test. Bit limited at the moment.
       
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      What do you mean? They tested a massive 8 households over a wide area (a street). How much more data do you need? Why isn't this on the front page of the tabloids? :clown:

      Maybe VM are waiting for the summer so that they can have a parade up Pall Mall before they receiver their medal for services to society from the queen?


      Maybe the residents all died in a freak BB surge incident which Virgin are covering up? :confused:


      The queen is a lizard you know! :lesson:
       
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      ?
      And why not.
      Interested to see what the outcome is and how scalable it is to take it to more customers. The other big players need their knuckles rapped for dragging their heels.

      I think it's the way forward and glad they are doing it. Absolutely no interest in the tabloids reporting it, rather a specialised outlet that perhaps know what they are talking about.

      There are some interesting technologies in use in getting stuff squeezed down the pipe.

      And the queen is not a lizard, at least not when I popped around for a natter yesterday. OK, she wears a crown when she does the dishes but who doesn't.
       
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      Its a publicity stunt. Why else announce it? Stop taking it as though they've announced it as anything they actually intend introducing any time soon. It isn't even new tech or something they've developed. Even if they offered it, would you really pay for something tou don't realistally need? I don't even need VM's current top tier BB package.

      I didn't see you at the queen's pad? I think that you are making things up?


      Besides which, who are these 8 households and what the hell are they up to if they need such BB speeds? I'd suspect them to be a subversive group of hackers taking control of satalites wit the intention off dropping them on my house???? Does anyone know the whereabouts of Dr Evil?
       
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      I don't talk to the staff.....
       
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      Good, they get easilly distracted and have better things to do than help an old man find the toilet.
       
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      Waterproof trousers and bicycle clips.
       
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      Wellingtons are also advisable :lesson:
       
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      Just wish I could be a VM customer in my area!!!!
       
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      To be honest it make me laff that Virgin sell people 362Mbps. All review and media talk is around do you really get that speed. No one seams to ask the real question which is do you need and can you make use of that speed.

      Take your router & wifi out of the loop. That is nearly 15 Netflix 4k movies at one time, required really.

      Add in a router & wifi you would be lucky to get over 50Mbps (Ignore the hype) on most laptops etc. So in real terms a family watching Netflix and YouTube with a gamer like my home really has little interest right now in even faster speeds, so any around 67Mbps on virgin normal service makes sense for family with teenagers and watch Netflix (other streaming services available).

      Any one paying £89 a month for the 362Mbps service, your are being ripped off. Your wifi/router/pc/apples etc won't be able to use that speed. Unless you offer an IPS service to your neighbours.
       
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      Going forward I would like to see higher bitrates on the films. That needs the content providers to up their game but they cannot do it on slow connections and that needs ISP to up their game. Somewhere everyone is looking at everyone else twiddling their thumbs. Get on with it.
       
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      Well I can’t speak for virgin as never used them but we moved over to FTTP with a company called Gigaclear last year - 1Gb both ways - I work from home and it has transformed how I’m able to work. Big files (8Gb+) that previously got sent to clients on disc now get uploaded in minutes. And it isn’t just about the speed it’s the latency compared to the crappy copper we had before. I get real world 950mb wired and 300mb+ to wireless over ac :clap: these products are targeted more at SOHO users than domestic.
       

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