NEWS: Toshiba 2018 TV Series launched

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    1. hodg100

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      Will be interesting to see prices, but this can only be a good thing based on the specs.
       
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      Interesting. I’ve no idea why they mess about with sound from a thin tv though. Just adds cost and complexity for nothing.

      Even the most basic sound bars can whip them.

      An inexpensive 65” OLED would get a cheer from me.
       
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      Ok... should have read that more carefully... :censored:
       
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      Yes, they're now owned by Hisense. The TVs are manufactured and marketed by Vestel under licence in Europe. I'll make that amend, ta.
       
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      Be interesting then if these end up being Hisense copies. They certainly sound like it.

      New OLED tick
      Emphasis on sound tick
      Smart system including Alexa tick

      But it remains to be seen how the build quality and LCD panel types remain the same as with Hisense. I don't think Hisense have a single IPS panel in their line-up.

      In the past Vestel hasn't had the greatest track record producing tv's so I guess it's an opportunity for them.

      Last year they were making Toshiba tv's before the Hisense takeover and I don't think they made anything other than confirm Toshiba became another supermarket brand. This year I hope it's different, there will be people who prefer to have Toshiba written on their tv instead of Hisense that's for sure.
       
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      Hi Mark, spotted a repeat on your article.
      'Toshiba – now owned by owned by Hisense'
       
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      As far as manufacturing, didn't Hisense get into sticky waters for not doing a good enough job by another owner - great anecdote, can't recall which one! But Vestel have been slighted for poorly made cheap Panasonic models.
      Lower tier Sony and Panasonic OLED prices ares are going to trouble Toshiba. And what year panel they have, as last year review sites were questioning what panel they had.
       
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      "Toshiba appears ready to launch at least three new lines of television sets for consumers in Europe, bringing its ranges up to date with the latest features and design language. Those appear to include the U58, U68, U78, T68, and the X98 Series, with each set to launch this year. For clarity, the company hasn’t provided pricing or availability information just yet. However, via its official European partner Vestel, it has given a few details about what buyers can expect when the TVs do launch. Each of the TVs which arrives with 4K support will, for example, also ship with Dolby Vision HD. The U68 Series will be extended to include up to 75-inch sets while the U78 will feature a much wider color gamut and the T68 Series is a value offering with forward-facing speakers."
      Toshiba Bringing Newly Redesigned Smart TVs To Europe | Androidheadlines.com
       
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      Sharp were/are the company suing Hisense over doing such an appalling job of making TVs in their name (in the US, UMC have the European rights I think). I don't think these sets will have much to do with Hisense though. Vestel confirmed that they have a multi-year deal in place to make Toshiba-branded TVs in Europe that wasn't affected by the sale. Not that Vestel is necessarily a badge of quality either...
       
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      If they do make good quality models with decent build quality then I'll be surprised.

      Problem is, you don't really find out unless people buy them and you see reviews for them.

      Tv assembly should be pretty basic though, I think build quality has gone downhill because of cost savings to the design process rather than assembly.

      But if they are Hisense copies then at least Hisense seem to have good build quality overall (but maybe a little poorer QC).
       
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      Regardless of the cheapness of materials, people were complaining that sets weren't even put together properly, which doesn't bode well. Although if Toshiba Japan are to be believed, the OLED's at least are being watched over by their technicians for QC.
      Very few people appear to be expecting former Toshiba 'glory' days and cost would no doubt be the factor as opposed to sentimental buys.
      You're not wrong about purchase/reviews. I guess the best option for these would be something like Amazon customers but the problem will be that they aren't likely to be as 'discerning' as forum purchasers.
      After the news last year and the non-arrival this release seems to have really dragged on.
       
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      I forgot to mention in my last reply one key issue in the UK seems to be availability.

      Philips' availabilty here is awful, despite them having events like the OLED shootout here on AVF its next to impossible to find all of there TVs from the UK website sold here.

      Toshiba last year said they were releasing an OLED, never happened, in the UK at least.

      TCL told AVForums they would start selling models in the UK, haven't seen anything of yet.

      Hisense's availability in the UK seems also to be pretty poor, I think only 2 stores were stocking the NU8700. The N6800 was more widely available but still not great.

      I really hope they can actually sell these TVs for people and we see how they perform, would be even greater if AVF could get their hands on some of them to review.
       
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      Hisense/Philips and perhaps Toshiba will find their way to Amazon at least - if not themselves then a market seller.
      As you say, it's the review sites/magazines that need them to garner any real interest. And it seems mad that some such sites still have to purchase a set or borrow one from a retailer to be able to review them. Amazing how short sighted/tight lipped some manufacturers are.
       
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      That says it's an LED...

      Should that be in the OLED forum?
       
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      The Thread does say LED and OLED - have I posted in the wrong place
       
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      Richer sounds are stocking the Toshiba oleds with a six year warranty so hopefully they are well built,65 is £2295 wondering what price they will drop down to in the future.

      Search results for: 'Toshiba oled'
       
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      Hopefully AVF will get one in for review very shortly as it does seem to be very well specced. Guess it will all be down to the Toshiba processing ...
       
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      Toshiba price as dropped at Richer Sounds so Toshiba could be on to a winner if the they receive some positive reviews the 65 is down to £1995 already!and the 55 £1299

      Search results for: 'Toshiba oled'
       
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      Costco are selling the 55" for £1249 and the 65" for £1899,and you get a 5year warranty and 90 days satisfaction guarantee which seems to be above average,are these a better spec than the 2018 LG B series or the Panasonic EZ952 of2017 ?
      Search Oled | Costco UK
       
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      Yes. The title says

      "Discussions about organic LED (OLED) televisions and technology"

      Organic LED is OLED.
       
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      Hey,
      I recently bought the 65" Toshiba 65X9863DB, brand new, with a discount (got it for £ 1540). The offer was extremely limited (hours) and i did not have time to check for reviews before ordering. Now that it is here, I am having a hard time finding a comprehensive review about it... I never owned an OLED before and i wanted to know if the difference between this and the premium models are huge?. (Someone told me that it might have an "extremely old panel :(). I am just an avid gamer and watching movies. Thanks.
       
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      The truth is more likely someone is speculating about the age of the panel. From the very limited reviews of the previous model Toshiba were putting out, if I recall correctly, they said it wasn't old panels and from what they saw they looked OK.
      If you've had it delivered, then just set it up and see what you think. Assuming you've bought it online, you have the 14 day distance selling regulations behind you and so can send it back if not happy or if bought via credit card have that protection too if you decide to return or is faulty in any way.
      If you are an avid gamer, you may want to check the OLED threads about possible screen burn, as prolonged static images - like headsup displays - may cause this.
       
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      It was sold by Amazon, so I am not worried about the return. Thing is.. after testing it... I feel that many things are weird, when I`m connecting it to my gaming laptop via HDMI. Windows that have lots of white colour (as in explorer windows) have a low contrast/gamma whatsoever. If a white background window is on top of another it further reduces the gamma of the newer window. I`m not sure if that`s OLED behaviour or this model does that.
       
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      All OLEDs have Absolute Brightness Limiters (ABL). The brighter the overall input to the screen the more the screen is dimmed. (This seems more to do with limiting total power consumption than anything to do with preventing burn in.)

      For example, on Sony's AF9 OLED if you display a white square on a black background and the white square is 2% of the screen, then the maximum brightness will be 470 nits. Increase the size of the square to 50% and the brightness falls to 294 nits. Increase the square to 100% of the screen and max brightness is down to 155 nits.

      The Toshiba may have more aggressive ABL than the Sony.
       
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