NEWS: Spotify reaches 100 million subscribers

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    1. Andy Bassett

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      I guess this means the Low-Fi is the new HiFi ?
       
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      I find it quite astonishing that so many people are prepared to pay the same for this as for a hi-def Netflix service. Someone should be undercutting them with a basic music streaming app
       
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      Why?

      Literally millions of songs for 9.99/month is hardly steep. Also, for people with slow internet like me it's a god send. I trialed Qobuz 24/192 and 16/44 and both had major buffering issues.
       
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      Then you are the very person I am talking about. Netflix offers a non-UHD service at a cheaper rate. Spotify "Premium" at 9.99/month is 120/year. Not cheap in my opinion. You deserve a service to fit your needs and I think it should be a lot cheaper than it is. People who have fast internet and want hi-fi sound should be prepared to pay more.
       
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      The family pack for £14.99 / month is much better value.

      Six accounts is great value for money.
       
    7. rgilyead

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      If you need 6 accounts. By the way Netflix Premium allows 4 people to access at same time for the same 9.99/month. Does Spotify allow that?
       
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      With the family pack, 6 people can play music at the same time.
       
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      I would hope so since that is what you are paying for. I am sorry I was not clear: does the 9.99 Spotify Premium service allow more than 1 person (or up to 4) to listen at the same time as with the Netflix service? If not, then the 9.99 deal looks even worse value.
       
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      Guess that depends purely how much you value music though?
       
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      I quite agree and it seems that millions of people value music so highly that they are prepared to pay a premium price for an average product. Kudos to Spotify for making it work. I won't be signing up though.
       
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      In what way is it average though? While I concede the quality is not on good (on paper) as Tidal et all but its undeniable that this isn't a priority to the masses. The curation is superb (albeit influenced by the record companies) the collection is superb, the UI is superb and it natively works with a boatload of AV and music hardware.
       
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      The single account only allows one person to use. There is the high quality version for streaming and downloading. It is perfect for when i’m out and about, or in the car, or in the bath, etc.

      It is an excellent way to discover new music.
       
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      Well it's average enough that only about a third of their customers are prepared to pay for it.
       
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      Is there a separate "high quality" version? How much is that?
       
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      No. You choose and can change it whenever you want.

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      OK. so my point is that everyone is effectively paying for the high quality version whether they want it or not. I am not criticising the product which seems to do what people want. I am saying that, if the streaming market actually worked properly, there would be cheaper versions targeted at different audiences. As it is, it seems that all the offerings do the same things at the same price. So there is very limited customer choice. Either pay 9.99 a month or get something much less useful.
       
    18. mjn

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      I don’t think the streaming bitrate quality is the USP of spotify, but rather the access to the immense music catalogue.

      When i discover new artists, i’ll check out the back catalogue on Spotify and if it’s my cup of tea, i’ll buy the CDs and rip to FLAC.

      It is also excellent for when you only like one or two songs on an album. Save the expense of buying loads of albums, so in those terms is excellent for my daughter. She likes a song, adds it to her library. Doesn’t have to waste £10 on an album for 2 songs.
       
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      If music library size is their USP how come this recent review says Spotify has the joint-smallest library of songs? Best music streaming services 2018
       
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      I meant on the whole for streaming services, not just Spotify.
       
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      Fair enough. So what is Spotify's USP then?
       
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      Why do they have to have a USP? They are market leader in the game of streaming music exactly as the news story highlights. Best have never had to equal market leader. They beat Apple and the record companies in the business they had gamed for years.
       
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      So to summarise: There are a number of music streaming competitors who don't have any USP, charge the same, and don't offer a range of services to suit different consumers. Hence, people have to accept what's on offer or put up with a vastly inferior service with ads. I don't think that is a market operating in the consumer interest. Just my opinion.
       
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      Guess you never listened to the radio for the last 50 years
       
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      Eh? I listen to the radio all the time. Lots of stations to choose from. All the ones I listen to are free and don't have ads. Also podcasts. Not sure of the relevance to music streaming though. Surely the point of streaming is that you can choose particular music and store playlists? It's the music streaming market I am talking about. The radio market works fine for me, thanks.
       
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      So it’s exactly the same business model but for this generation except the end user decides the content. This is the way it’s going and Spotify are leading the way. You don’t have to “get it” but sneering and dismissing it is a short sighted stand point in my opinion
       
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      I am sorry if my comments came across as "sneering" as I am genuinely interested in why people are buying into this new business model. Also, I am not dismissing it. I have consistently said above that I hope and expect that somebody will come into the market and shake it up. Just seems like a bit of a cosy market for the suppliers at the moment. I am quite prepared to admit that I am wrong but if Spotify want to convert the non-paying two thirds of their customer base into subscribers I think they will have to provide a more economical offering. Otherwise, someone else will. Isn't that how markets are supposed to work?
       
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      lol! The market was shaken up just over a decade ago when Spotify launched. I agree that competition is a good thing though.
       
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      Don’t get me wrong, £10 / month for Spotify is too much and I wouldn’t pay it. But £15 / month for 6 accounts is a no brainer.
       

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