NEWS: Sony 8K Z9J and 4K A90J, A80J, X95J and X90J TVs launched

Smudger558

Active Member
SonOfSJ Thanks for your private message, this gives another insight, after reading your PM i went back to a TV store.

In this shop there was a 77A80J next to the 85X95J, I was allowed to change all settings (problem with 99% of the shops is that they put all TV on bright mode which is far from ideal) there was tennis on both TVs, I also got to see Yt demos and a piece of film.

Had put the same settings on the X95J as on my A77J this didn't work, then put the X95J on default mode and this looked pretty good in the store, sdr tennis/serie, 4k demo, Yt 1080 Matrix Trailer there was no visible blooming to notice.

1 on 1 comparison in terms of black Oled is the master, but the Sony X95J was not bad at all , if you look at the X95J separately I found it was quite a very good TV.

I also realize for colors etc is personal taste and that an Isf calibration is very important, I think a well calibrated X95J will give a very good picture compared to an standaard Oled.

I'm going to take the gamble and exchange the 77A80J for an 85X95J, I also have a 14-day exchange right, if i don't like the X95J in the end i will buy the Lg83C14 or maby the 83A90J if the price drops abit.

Prices in our country (the Netherlands/Belgium) are nice at the moment
-Sony 85X95J after cashback €2499 (stunning price)
-Lg83C14 after cash back €3999
-Sony 83A90J after cashback €4549
Save more money and get 83 inch oled xj will have blooming and black bars problem and will drive you mad
 

Funky22

Member
What was wrong with a80j I have 77A80J and I love it
There is nothing wrong with the 77A80J although I sometimes find it a bit too dark but this is a matter of correct settings, but I want a larger screen, I come from a 260cm wide projector screen, we first wanted a 77Oled with an Epson tw9400 with Alr screen for movies/action series but we decided to drop the Projector option.

77" is just too small for me especially in 2:35:1 material 82/85" is acceptable to me.
 

SonOfSJ

Well-known Member
Prices in our country (the Netherlands/Belgium) are nice at the moment
-Sony 85X95J after cashback €2499 (stunning price)
-Lg83C14 after cash back €3999
-Sony 83A90J after cashback €4549
Before I explode with anger at Continental prices compared to those in the UK, please tell me what the cashback is and how much it is per television?
 

SonOfSJ

Well-known Member
So if I'm understanding correctly, the prices without cashback would be, for instance:
Sony 85X95J 2999 Euros. Using the handy Reuters conversion website, we find that today one Euro is £0.8553, here:
Euro converter Thu 4 Nov 2021.jpg


So the prices become, without cashback;
  1. Sony LCD 85X95J, 2999 Euros, = £2565;
  2. LG OLED 83C14, 4299 Euros = £3677;
  3. Sony OLED 83A90J, 5299 Euros = £4532.
Of course, I and everyone else in the UK are annoyed at these prices. Somehow, when it comes to consumer electronics, prices in the UK are noticeably higher than in Europe, and also noticeably higher than in North America - the UK gets screwed in both directions, or perhaps allows itself to be screwed by both Europe and by North America. Whatever arguments we hear about why prices are more expensive in the UK than in North America, those arguments somehow don't seem to apply to prices in continental Europe. which are also cheaper than in the UK, grrr!!

In grotesque contrast to the prices at the Holland / Belgium border, these are the current prices at both Richer Sounds and John Lewis in the UK for the same items:

  1. Sony LCD 85X95J, £3999, see this screen save -
    Sony 85X95J television at Richer Sounds 4 Nov 2021.jpg
  2. LG OLED 83C114, £5499;
  3. Sony OLED 83A90J, £6499.
The UK prices are around 50% - half as much again - more than in at least one place in continental Europe. This is insupportable.
 

Funky22

Member
Yes Brexit has screwed you up on prices, there is no competition from the Eu shops anymore
I have always bought alot from the Uk in the past for my other hobby (carp fishing) but that is also over,EU customers hardly buy anything in the UK online now because of the extra import fee and tax.

I better dont tell the price i payed for my 77A80J oled, oh yeah on all those Sony tv"s with money cashback here Sony also give an extra €100 for you playstation account
 

lgans316

Distinguished Member
Yes Brexit has screwed you up on prices, there is no competition from the Eu shops anymore
I have always bought alot from the Uk in the past for my other hobby (carp fishing) but that is also over,EU customers hardly buy anything in the UK online now because of the extra import fee and tax.

I better dont tell the price i payed for my 77A80J oled, oh yeah on all those Sony tv"s with money cashback here Sony also give an extra €100 for you playstation account
Doubt it as the prices have been like this for many years. But I am sure 5-10% price hike could be due to Brexit

I would bite 85X95J or 77A80J at £2999
 

SonOfSJ

Well-known Member
Well, I doubt that Richer Sounds are following this thread and my moan in post #3734, but yesterday some of their prices of the three televisions that @Funky22 mentioned dropped as follows:
  1. Sony LCD 85X95J, dropped £200, now £3799 (but still a long way to go before @Igans316 bites);
  2. LG OLED 83C114, no change, still £5499;
  3. Sony OLED 83A90J, down £700 to £5799, which takes it much closer to the identically-sized LG OLED.
But as consumers we are always greedy and want more and more for less and less. When my Sony 75ZD9 television was released in (I think) late 2016, its price was £7000. I got mine in January 2018 for £5199 from Richer Sounds having spent over a year watching its price gradually drop, and I finally bought it only when it was about to go out of stock. So now, approaching five years later, the Sony top OLED, at 83 inches rather than my 75-inch LCD, is only £600 more than I paid, and is OLED technology! And the OLED may come down yet further. But even if I stick to LCD technology, my 75ZD9 was £5199 in January 2018, and now the 85X95J, ten inches larger, is £1,400 less than I paid! And people were quite happy to pay around £6000 for the Sony 75ZD9 in 2017, but @Igans316 won't bite until a machine ten inches larger is half the price.

For myself, I'll be getting either the Sony 85X95J or the Sony OLED 83A90J next year, and yes, I'll wait and wait for the price to drop as much as possible until it's about go out of stock, then I'll bite.
 

824587

Member
Do these TVs play Dolby Atmos from an Xbox console without audio delay? I know on the XH90, when the first HDMI 2.1 firmware arrived, there was a delay and it couldn't be solved by changing settings.
 
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papasen

Novice Member
I got my 83A90J today (thanks @Funky22 for sharing the deal details). I noticed on the bottom bezel in the center there are 2 holes that look kinda cheap. Am I missing a part or is this suppose to be like this? Between the two holes there is a IR receive/On/Off light. See picture attached.

20211110_135843_2.jpg
 

sammy20v

Active Member
Are there any owners of the X95J 65 incher yet ? Really keen to try this TV soon and the review here looks very good
I am especially interested in knowing if the 65 suffers from the visible grid array that some are reporting on avsforum especially for the 85 inch as it appears that owners of the 65 say that it doesn't
 

Lee33

Active Member
Any word on when to expect expect vrr on the 2021 models? It's getting closer to the end of year date that was stated
 

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