NEWS: Sonos UK prices to rise by up to 25 percent

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    1. hodg100

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      Very unfortunate. However, the fact is that the pound is on floor.

      @Mark Hodgkinson love your sense of humour.
       
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      Nice up to date picture - old Gen 1 Play:5 and a Sonos Bridge (discontinued)
       
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      Pound was over-valued vs other currencies for a good while before the referendum; it would have dropped on either result.

      Small selection of articles from December 2015:

      Pound is 'most overvalued currency in the world', analysts claim

      Will December see Sterling value rise or fall?

      Somewhat ironically Deutche Bank recently (Jan 2017) came out to say the pound is now UNDERVALUED.

      The British Pound is Significantly Undervalued says Deutsche Bank

      I guess this doesn't help SONOS' balance sheet, but blaming it on BREXIT is a bit shallow.
       
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      Ouch that is quite a hike. wonder if this is going to become a trend or just a few chancers
       
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      Exactly, there are two things going on here which doesnt help too.

      Firstly, I strongly suspect Brexit had a significant impact on the pound and I really doubt it would have dropped by the same margin without it. This is what the companies want you to remember when you read about their price hikes.

      Secondly, I also strongly suspect that Sonos (and Microsoft and others that have risen prices by stupid amounts) have not incurred and will not incur anywhere near that much of a loss due to the drop in the pound (whatever the cause).

      Conclusion Brexit does probably = drop in pound but should not = 25% increase in price
       
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      I disagree. When I was there during January last year, pound was ~11 croatian kunas. When I was there during November/December pound was less then 9 kunas. Maybe not 25% but still quite a lot.
      Sure, BREXIT is not the only reason but it is the biggest one.
       
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      Glad I picked up a few of these over black Friday/ xmas now! Play:1 for £129 rather than £199! An extra £100 for the playbar is a bit steep mind.
       
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      Brexit is what has made the pound drop so much almost certainly but this should not translate directly into 25% price increases. If it was we'd have seen the lowend / mainstream brands also increasing their prices by similar amounts. Personally I think we have greedy companies exploting Brexit as an excuse to gouge more cash out of us.
       
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      This is BS, their prices should be coming down.

      Sonos have barely innovated from their original product, when there is (was?) so much potential. And lets be honest, about £30 worth of electronics could do the clever stuff (Chromecast audio/hifiberry)

      Couple this price hike with lack of innovation, increased competition and the company laying off hundreds of staff last year, and we could be seeing one last cash grab before they close shop.

      I've had Sonos for over a decade but I definitely wouldn't use them for whole house audio if starting today.
       
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      Ah so another company is jumping on the Brexit bandwagon well i say Vote with your wallet ;)
       
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      You are correct i use raspberry pi3 with free software installed got a replacement for my squeezebox duet it's excellent. No need to pay sonos price even before the increase.
       
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      I'd say Sonos are covering their backsides for the next year or so. With Brexit you can't just look at whats happened since June but what will happen over the next 12 to 18 months.
       
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      Hoping the tv manufactures don't follow the same % jump or I'll never see any UHD content!
       
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      Totally agree. You can't blame companies for increasing prices to react to currency fluctuations, but Sonos is so hopelessly over-priced to start with.

      The Connect is a very old-fashioned product that will now cost you £350 to add your main system to multi-room - the Chromecast Audio does exactly the same thing for £30.

      Denon HEOS is another alternative. Their Play-1 equivalent is available for £119 at the moment, the Play-1 itself will be £199. If you have a new Denon AVR you can add this to your multiroom system for nothing, rather than £350 with Sonos.

      I had Sonos years ago and was quite taken with the idea of a full surround system as it was neat - soundbar, sub and 2 x Play 1s were too expensive then and will now cost £1,800!

      I can't see how they can do enough business on this basis. Higher-end shoppers are are less likely to research will probably keep buying from John Lewis and Selfridges, but this is limited as the really high end market will go to home automation specialists who are likely to recommend something else.

      Those who already have some Sonos gear might keep on buying, I suppose, even if they could be best off selling what they have and starting again with something much cheaper.

      I'll be interested to see where they are a couple of years from now.
       
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      Of course you are right that answering with your wallet is the answer. However consider this.

      Those who voted for Brexit will of course look one way and see companies cashing in using it as an "excuse".
      Those who voted to stay in will look at it and say it's proof that Brexit is causing prices to rise.

      Some will say that the pound was overvalued anyway and this was inevitible. Others will say the pound has dropped through the floor because of Brexit, not despite it.

      The truth is probably nearer the middle and I'll allow people to ponder this
      • If there was no Brexit, there would be no excuse they could use to arbirtrarily increase the prices.
      • Price rises are not binary - they don't have to be caused by JUST Brexit or JUST profiteering. Prices could be rising 10% due to Brexit, 10% due to the exchange rate regardless of Brexit and 5% because they feel like it and "just can"
      • Sonos, the case in point, are coming under increasing and real pressure from a whole host of other manufacturers (Yamaha and Denon to name 2 of the largest) in their traditional stronghold. If they didn't HAVE to increase prices at least a bit I would suggest they wouldn't be.
      This flat out polarised opinion from both sides is just a little tedious in the same way that climate change denial is tedious. Brexit *WILL* absolutely affect us negatively in some ways in the short and medium term and to continue to deny that fact is just blind bias. Likewise I'm also sure there will come a number of positives for being out along the way which the "stay" supporters will ignore.

      Regardless of the reasoning behind it, you either buy or you don't - turning this into some sort of political pi55ing match is imo, silly.

      G
       
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      Guy's, guy's, guy's,

      Stop worrying. Soon as the U.K.£ stabilises, Sonos will bring their newly increased prices down by 25% !!!
       
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      I did have another picture, it had a guy with his head somewhere else, but i didn't think it appropriate for a family forum.
       
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      Did SONOS actually say this is down to Brexit or is it the various media outlets that make that link. I mean look at Apple, many said the same with regards to Brexit yet the price increases were in all markets and linked to the Dollar primarily.

      Saying that; so the Play:5 will be £499 which is £399 ex VAT which is today $498. And Amazon.com is selling Sonos Play:5 for $499. As such shouldn't the real question be why it has been so much more expensive in the US before now ;)
       
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      cashing in , its 199 euros but the uk will be price £199 yet its E 1:20 to the £1 cashing in.
       
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      Did SONOS actually say this is down to Brexit or is it the various media outlets that make that link. I mean look at Apple, many said the same with regards to Brexit yet the price increases were in all markets and linked to the Dollar primarily.

      Saying that; so the Play:5 will be £499 which is £399 ex VAT which is today $498. And Amazon.com is selling Sonos Play:5 for $499. As such shouldn't the real question be why it has been so much more expensive in the US before now ;)[/QUOTE]

      The exact wording was:

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      Thanks as I suspected, they do not link it to Brexit themselves.

      Yup, so we end up about $50 more expensive than the playbar in the US. So how come they have been paying so much more for theirs in the mean time.
       
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      Emphasis my own.

      Since it didn't happen, it's impossible to know what the effect on the pound would have been if the result was different.

      The only thing we know for sure is that people living in the UK are poorer. Everything else is opinion and speculation. Likewise, nobody knows for sure what will happen to the pound when the UK actually leaves the EU. People can make predictions but until it happens, nobody knows.
       
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      Why was this announced? To create a sudden spending spree? To me it sounds like, "our prices are going up, get them now."
       
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      I'd rather use Bluesound anyway
       
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      menawhile, price here
      playbar 6250kn=715 pounds
      play 5 4560kn=522 pounds
      play 1 1790kn=205 pounds

      no BREXIT here and average wage for 11/2016 was 665 pounds. Welcome to the real world guys.
       
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