NEWS: Sky reaffirms dish-less broadcasting plans

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    1. hodg100

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      It'll be interesting to see what the quality of the channels is. Do you think they'll limit the quality to 720p like to do for NowTV?
       
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      I'm in two minds about this.

      GOOD - I have mature oak trees at the back of my short garden. When we moved into the house over 20 years ago they were a nice backdrop and the Sky dish mounted on the side of the house easily cleared them. Since they have grown into monsters and the Sky dish now on the aerial mast strapped to the chimney only just clears them. Only expect to have a year or two left.

      BAD - this means that Sky TV will be competing with other internet use. So my son starts downloading a game on Steam and the TV Programme that I am watching downstairs starts breaking up. And what about viewers that can't get good broadband speeds.

      Cheers,

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      I've done a comparison of bit rates for various sources over the last 18 months or so (sad I know!)
      Using the Sky Q download service the HD downloads vary but are around 4Mbps to 7Mbps, the UHD downloads are around 18Mbps, for comparison I've calculated Blu Ray at 30Mbps and UHD Blu Ray at 60Mbps.
      High quality video over the fibre network is possible but I wonder about the infrastructure's ability to handle the increased volume.
       
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      Now TV has announced that it will be broadcast in HD by the end of the year, (Live and On Demand) so would expect Dish less Sky Q to include 4K. (If Netflix and Amazon can do it, it should be easy for Sky)

      Bill
       
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      BT manage it with their multicast channels - even with HD and even UHD.

      So why not Sky ?
       
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      'According to stats gathered by the company, Sky Q is also changing viewing habits, with customers watching 6% more TV compared to those with Sky+ '

      Is it really a shock that someone willing to pay a premium for sky Q watches more television than someone who isn't? I am surprised that it is only 6%.

      If sky are trying to offer a service that properly competes with Netflix etc then I don't think their current subscriber model will work.

      If, however, they have their full service online with decent image quality and rolling one month contracts they risk cannibalising their own satellite based subscribers.
       
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      I'll be willing to bet that much of the 6% is from people who have not previously had Sky Multiroom, like me.

      That said, if that is the case yeah 6% seems low, but it depends if Sky are taking that inconsideration.
       
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      Oh look at that, Sky is playing catchup. When are they going to do away with SD? Every other premium broadcasters have a long time ago.
      Viewing habits have changed, watch what you want when you want.
       
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      That's why new sky stuff goes into boxsets day after live airing, so you can binge out & watch the whole series1 of Britannia in UHD if you want.
       
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      I agree about the SD, but no other provider offers anything like Sky Q. In a short while (hopefully) I can get either BT Infinity or Virgin. Neither companies TV package will be replacing Sky Q. Not be a long shot.

      4K? They are getting there, but also needs more effort granted.
       
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      I'm all about the streaming of SKY content if it's cheaper each month. Do away with the boxes for cloud storage and do away with needing the dishes but somehow I expect it will all cost the same
       
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      My issue would be the ability to record. No way would Sky keep everything for catch up etc and some channels restrict the use of it and don't let every program to be available for catch-up services.

      But at the same time, no more box issues and no more loosing recorded content if it has to be swapped out.

      The good thing about having a box is the fact that anyone with crappy internet or busy internet can download stuff to watch later and of course 4K stuff.

      Mixed views on this, but the this service should have been done by now.
       
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      Is this NOWTV announcement available as a web link?
       
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      They have been for some number of years
      SKY aren't going to do away with the dish, but the face of SKY is going to change and so are its delivery methods. Also announced is Now TV in full HD, all over the internet including BTs YouView. My, Thats a first.

      Satellite is king? No. Its merely one delivery method amongst many.
       
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      As always with Sky it depends what they'll charge for this. I've always found Netflix great value for money, especially with two teenage daughters in the house who love watching it. They don't show much interest in Sky so we just have freesat upstairs. Despite myself and my husband being film and sport fans we're only Sky+HD customers because of the 60% discount deals I've managed to get 3 years running. Now TV in full HD could be worthwhile but again how much will the passes cost, in 2018 SD channels should really be a thing of the past and full HD the standard.
       
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      I get what you mean and agree. But HD channels per se are in only a very small minority of broadcasters. Indeed most second string channels can't even afford to upscale, never mind third stringers, who can't even get their EPG right. Or even quality SD bitrates. <sigh>
       
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      It’s great NowTV is finally hitting 1080p.
      I watch it (entertainment sub) via a 4K TVs built in app and it looks pretty good considering it’s a 720 feed.
      If you shop around there are cheap subs out there.
       
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      Sorry, where has that been stated? As even SKYs SAT platform doesn't do that?
       
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      a few posts up, see the link although its a bit grey, wont come as standard needs clarified :

      Now TV streams at a maximum resolution of 720p. The Smart Stick itself is capable of outputting at full HD, and you'll get that from other apps like ITV Hub and All 4. Sky is finally upping the quality of Now TV to 1080p later this year, though it won't come as standard.
       
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      It's really good value. If I was a Game of a thrones fan etc and mainly watched the channels included in the entertainment pack, I probably would drop Sky for this.

      It looks like NowTV are also going to update its user interface. If it's fast and clean, that would be a big draw for me as I currently find it unappealing.

      It's taking a while but we are getting there where the quality of these streaming services can be a proper replacement for Sky and save money
       
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      If they can add a picture of what is being fast forwarded that would be very handy.
      Assuming it’s coming as it’s pretty standard now across the other streamers.
       
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      Question: With the dish I can record 6 channels whilst recording a 7th.

      Will I be able to do this over t'internet? I very much doubt it.

      And the problem with downloading programmes, rather than recording them, is that you're left with a limited time to watch the material.
       
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      Expect an extra HD charge on top. How can they stream HD on NowTV but still charge Sky sat subscribers for HD channels??
       
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      One way is to charge more for the NOWTV HD subscription vs NOWTV 720P.

      Also Sky Sat will still have the advantage of 4k content and also maybe HLG HDR broadcasting.
       
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      They must know some of us left for the cheaper NOWTV as the subs (if just a entertainment viewer) didn’t make sense.
      £7 for a month entertainment (can be had for £3) v £20 odd for the exact same via sat (although you can record).
      If there is a 720p at same price v 1080p for a few quid more they are having a laugh as the current most successful streamers charge that extra few quid for the 4K version.
      I’d hope it’s 1080 as default and more for 4K, if not I’ll happily carry on as is.
       
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      If you can stream any of those 7 programmes at any time, why would you want to have them stored locally?
       
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      Netflix charge more for each step up
      SD is £5.99
      HD is £7.99
      UHD is £9.99
       
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      That teaches me for not looking at the price of the Netflix SD version :)
      Surely 720p isn’t considered SD though unless they introduce 480P?
      charge £5.99 for 480, £7.99 for 720, a few more for 1080 and a few more for 4K would seem a little mad, but hey it’s Sky.
      Will be very interesting to see the new pricing.
       
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