NEWS: Samsung Announces 8K TV UK Price and Availability

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    1. Aaron Macarthy Beards

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      As the article suggests, what native content will you be able to watch?
      Even 8K gaming is in it's infancy

      A marketing gimmick at present
       
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      8K just needs to GET IN THE SEA!
       
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      I'm looking forward to this as i will be getting an 8K tv next year.
       
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      Comments here are so predictable :rotfl:
       
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      So when does Sky R launch? ;)
       
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      I bet it will be mainly sport based which i am not into sadly.
       
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      I hope they release the curved triangle edition to encourage adoption.
       
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      If you can afford a 75"+ version and you're in the market for a TV then why not buy this for upscale 4k which should be noticeable better?

      If eshift works wonders for projectors then why not this?
       
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      Until there is 8k broadcast on the horizon there seems little point IMV UNLESS broadcasters are going to skip 4k and go straight to 8k which may be a possibility. However that still could be at least a couple of years away before we get either 4 or 8k broadcast for other than sport or special events.
       
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      Apparently the AI upscaler for these TVs is supposed to be excellent and could make it worth watching upscaled 4k content.
       
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      From all impressions it sounds like the upscaler on this will be very very good which you would kind of hope as that's going to be the majority of content. They had a training evening last week comparing it side by side with a Q9FN and the upscaling quality was said to be much much better in comparison to the 4K screen. Add that to the 4000 nits of brightness for both the 75 inch and 85 inch model and it probably makes the 75 inch model the sweet spot.
       
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      Definitely a marketing stunt to make people look twice when they would otherwise be drawn to OLED.

      The uneducated will look at the specs, listen to the Curry's sales staff guff, and buy an inferior product which likely makes the majority of stuff you CAN watch on it (1080p) look worse than it would've done on a 4K QLED set.

      There is no 8K road map in the UK, and the costs of even 4K production are currently such that 1080p will remain the primary delivery format for many years to come.

      At the present time, this is utterly ridiculous.
      Even if 8K was on the horizon, most enthusiasts would execute a degree of caution given the confusion already played out with HDMI versions and HDR formats.

      Give it up Samsung. Buy in some OLED panels from LG until your MicroLED technology is read for prime time.
       
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      I wonder what a 2K upscaled movie on 4K bluray looks like upscaled to 8K? :)
       
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      According to a lot of reports on the web (Supposedly from Samsung) it easier to upscale with 8K then it is with 4k, in fact most are claiming that HD will look way better on a 8K TV then on a 4K TV. (Even SD should be more watchable then on a 4K TV) We will have to wait and see on that though.

      Bill
       
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      Because the resolution of the human eye is limited, so the benefit of increased resolution is on an exponential curve at whose top 4K already sits. The jump to 4K from 1080p matters because the human eye can discern it. The human eye cannot discern a difference between 4K and 8K when sat at a normal, or even pretty close distance. 4K is very close to the limit of what we can see, 8K sails pointlessly beyond it.

      8K is a marketing tool, nothing more. Don't be duped.
       
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      I don't know what the fuss is all about. The 4k and 8k side by side look the same to me on my 1080p monitor.
       
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      Well you grumpy guys have convinced me. Pre ordered :D:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
       
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      There are more reasons not to invest in 8K than there are reasons to get excited by it. There'll be no content available until at least 2020 when the Tokyo Olympics are scheduled to be the first ever event broadcast in 8K. It is very unlikely that there'll ever be an 8K disc based medium or any other similar means of distributing content. The reason Samsung are starting pushing these sets now is in advance of the 2020 Olympics. Why buy a TV now that has no practical purpose until 2020 and why buy one then if there's not really ever going to be anything after that available in 8K?

      Besides which, who in the UK have actually announced that they will be broadcasting coverage of the 2020 Olympics in 8K?
       
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      More importantly: You can't see 8K. I agree with what you said, but this is more fundamental, I feel.
       
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      are these sets hdmi 2.1? - and are they 12 bit panels? were are the specs
       
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      There are some advantages, but only in relation to large screen sizes. An 8K 50" TV would be pointless and the resolution may not even be that noticable on a 65" panel?
       
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      I'd imagine that the HDMI chipset will be one that can fascilitate some if not all of the HDMI version 2.1 specs, but until these specs are finalised no manufacturer is allowed to declare their products as being HDMI 2.1 equipped or compliant.
       
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      The way I look at it is this. Currently the LG 77 OLED is £6999. The 75 inch model of this TV is the same price. From all impressions so far it upscales better than 4K sets. Which you would expect when that's going to be the main use of this TV. The power needed to run 8K is huge so you can understand why the upscaling on this TV is ment to be extremely impressive. Just compare something like 4K TV upscaling to using MADVR with a high end graphics card. The difference is huge so there is certainly a lot of room there. Im not saying this will be MADVR+ high end graphics card quality but certainly better than what 4K sets can produce upscaling wise. Add to that 4000 nits of brightness so zero tone mapping needed which makes this the only consumer set that can do full HDR10 without any need for tonemapping. Add to that improvements in motion and blacks over the Q9FN and you have a pretty great spec. Actual native 8K is probably the least exciting part of this set.
       
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      Yeah, but most of that is ancillary to the 8K panel and could be implimented into TVs of a lesser resolution. What you should be asking it why they haven't implemented this (apart from the scaling) into the 4K models?
       
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      If desperate then you really need to emigrate to Japan in order to benefit from 8K. NHK are starting to broadcast an 8K channel there this December, but this is again as part of the lead up to the 2020 Olympics.

      NHK to launch 8K channel in December 2018

      Japan gears up for 8K Olympics in ISDB-S3 standard


      The reason that you are seeing 8K TVs appear now is because the manufacturers are selling them to Japanese consumers. The fact you can buy one here is as an afterthought and a means to make a few extra squib from the gullible.
       
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      Larger sized 4K displays have rather low pixels per inch. Having an 8K display will automatically produce a far clearer image with the PPI alone. And like it's been said, the upscaling AI is supposed to be very very impressive. These are not for the gullible at all! The hate is crazy
       
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      If the sets are out in a few weeks, absolutely no reason to have a full speed s list now surely?! Think 8k sets would help with banding especially if there 12 bit
       
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      Yes, but the content you have access to will have to be scaled up to fit that panel. It makes no odds as to how good any scaler is, the results are not and never will be as good as content with a native resolution of 8K. You'd be paying more for the scaler onboard an 8K TV than you'd be paying for the ability to play anything with a native 8K resolution. This is especially the case as it stands now and for those in the UK, I'd suspect for some considerable time to come?
       

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