Personally I would prefer to have the baseball disappear for a few milliseconds compared to the Sony that is just constant judder...I should have said additional motion handling modes as opposed to base motion handling but assume everyone will realise that's what I meant. Re the above - do we know that to be the case? Is additional motion handling maxed out on all four manufacturers dynamic modes?
Or can we just say that LG's is the worst in that particular mode? It would be of great use to know how these modes compare when manually set to similar levels.
I should have said additional motion handling modes as opposed to base motion handling but assume everyone will realise that's what I meant. Re the above - do we know that to be the case?
And that just shows we all have a preferences. I rather loose a baseball ball for a few ms than the judder constantly from the Sony.I can quite confidently tell you without any shadow of doubt that LGs motion processing is utterly laughable. Regardless of setting you get image breakups and all sorts of artefacts. If everything else PQ wise was equal, LG would sit comfortably in last place.
Exactly how I have my E6, calibrated but with TrueMotion on. As you know I intend to acquire a 9002 to replace it, which I will be having calibrated next month. I will engage motion processing and so I'll have just as good an image as on the LG (which is stunning) but with a much better interpolation performance of the Philips. Which ever way you slice it the Philips will out perform the LG for me.I would have like the calibrated mode of any of the sets as they simply were so close as to be expected. However I would personally then prefer the Philips and enable it’s motion processing if that is possible. To me it was really that good.
You seem to be saying that people should only be allowed to prefer a picture that is the most accurate. However, nobody can dictate what other people "should" like. People can decide on their own what is best to them and they are always right - in their opinion.
Anyway, I am all for encouraging realistic colours with calibration. However, trying to tell someone that they shouldn't like whatever it is that they happen to prefer (be it over saturated colours, high sharpness, overly bright image, maximum motion interpolation, etc.) seems a bit pointless. A TV is a mass market product that is there for people to enjoy watching. Telling people how to watch it is similar to telling them what to watch.
(Although I would pay extra for a TV that actively filtered out soaps and relaity TV. )
We did have two sessions? (Actually there were three.) The first session was all the TVs calibrated - which no TV really won as they were all too close. In the second all sets were set to Vivid - as a shortcut for turning all the processing on. However, 3 of the 4 sets were effectively not in their best settings as for three of the four manufacturers Vivid seems to be pretty poor whereas Danny has spent time creating a Vivid mode that actually seems pretty good. (So there is a reasonable argument about the fairness of this Vivid test.) The third phase was watching in Cinema mode - a fair test again and one that also had no clear winner.
The telecine judder in one of the motion tests will have been worse than any telecine judder that you have seen before. This is because it was deliberately shot to be the worst example of judder possible i.e. sharp detailed frames with no blurring. So the judder was as painful to watch as it could be. (That was the directors intent.) I think it is fair to say that for these scenes everyone preferred the frame interpolation.
Am I unusual in not dreaming of owning a supercar?
Personally I would prefer to have the baseball disappear for a few milliseconds compared to the Sony that is just constant judder...
But granted that part wasn’t necessarily a test of the “best” settings. It was a test of everything enabled.
My suggestion would be:The final post of the Philips P5 processing engine is now available at:
Philips TV invites you to discuss best picture processing tech
We'll be collecting questions for the AV Forums team to ask Philips PQ Guru Danny Tack in a podcast next week - So please feel free to leave a question. We'll pick the best ones with the help of the editorial team.
The calibrated shoot out is completely valid imo and the vivid mode to an extent in that it demonstrates Philips superiority in that particular mode. The latter also hints at potentially superior motion handling albeit that would have to be validated with further comparisons.Shootouts arranged by one company or another have no validity whatsoever.
Apologies, there has a been a delay on delivering the stock to JLP. Target date is now the 23rd Nov but the great news is that the launch price will be £1799.
What people seem to be forgetting is we only really saw LG's motion handling (and everyone else's) at full bore (Vivid mode), not on a setting where it's useful but not destructive
The calibrated shoot out is completely valid imo and the vivid mode to an extent in that it demonstrates Philips superiority in that particular mode. The latter also hints at potentially superior motion handling albeit that would have to be validated with further comparisons.