NEWS: New Apple MacBook Air, Mac Mini and iPad Pro

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    1. Aaron Macarthy Beards

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      "Pro" stands for "profit"

      Huge price rises for the iPads..
       
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      They must be running out of cash....
       
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      Apple most over priced products on the planet, but people keep buying them i am baffled one day people will wake up.
       
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      Can’t wait for o2 to start selling the iPad Pro. I’m all over this to upgrade my iPad Pro 10.5.
       
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      No iMac refresh :( I was certain there was going to be at least a spec bump. So now I'm not sure what to do

      1. Buy the current one
      2. New mini (i5) with a pair of 4k monitors
      3. Wait.

      Decisions, decisions
       
    8. Jthor

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      I don’t like the lack of a headphone port on the new iPad pro
       
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      I'm interested in the Ipad Pro but those prices are a little bit on the high side for me to be willing to actually purchase one.
       
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      When I bought my iPad Pro in May 2016, the 12" 32GB version it was £679.

      I'd love a new one, but there is no way in hell am I paying £969 for it. fudge that.
       
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      I was about to post exactly the same thing.
      I can’t remember the details now, but somehow I paid £658 and got a free case for it too, thanks JL.
      I can afford a new one, but £969 to replace something that still does all I need makes no sense at all.
       
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      The biggest competition to the new iPads has always been the previous generations. I upgrade my iPhone about once every 2 years but I'm still using a 5 year old iPad despite loving new tech. The old ones still do a great job so its very hard to justify a purchase other than thinking 'I just really want it'. Which is fine, but its a problem for Apple.
       
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      As nice as the new 12.9 pro sounds, I'm glad I bought the 2017 version with headphone jack!
       
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      I’ve been waiting for this years iPad Pro but will be downsizing to the 11” version from my 12.9” 1st gen. when I purchased the choice was 12.9 or 9.7” and I’ve always found the 12.9” a little too cumbersome (though the screen is great).

      The 10.5” always felt just a tad too smal, so the 11” should hopefully be (like Goldilocks said) “just right”.

      My only decision is whether to stump up for the 256gb or drop down to 64 from my current 128
       
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      I've been in the market for a new iPad for years now (my current one is 5 years old), so I snapped up one of the new Pros last night. Looks like a beautiful piece of kit.

      It was interesting how Apple described the GPU in it - "as powerful as an Xbox One S". That's the first time a tablet has had console levels of power, and given that it has no cooling (the XO S has a huge fan), it's an impressive piece of engineering. Apple's CPU and GPU teams are in a league of their own now.

      Of course they're expensive (although much cheaper than the phones), but that's always been the way with Apple. They're high end products. If you want cheap, there are plenty of other products out there.
       
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      The 64GB base model is £769.
       
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      I'd be extremely sceptical about Apple's claims of matching an Xbox One S in terms of graphics performance.
       
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      I can understand some pro uses but top of the shop iPad pro is silly money. 1719 for non cellular. Extra few quid and I get a base model 27" desktop.

      Yeah, OK, I cannot drag a desktop around if I am a pro photo user etc.

      I suppose they know the numbers in what sells and where they can reap the rewards.

      No desk top upgrades but I fear the 27" will lose the user upgrade options for the memory.
       
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      That’s the 11”. The 12.9” starts at £969
       
    20. Kotatsu Neko

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      It'll be interesting to see what the high specs and the appearance of full fat Photoshop will do to sales. It could conceivably be used as a laptop substitute for photographers for the first time.

      It also makes an interesting alternative to the MS Surface, which also starts at around the £900 mark. Although of course to be fair, the Surface is a vastly more versatile machine.
       
    21. Steven

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      I was hoping for something too to replace the 2008 iMac

      Reckon it's a given 2019 will see a redesigned iMac with T2 security chip, spec bump and touch or face id to fall in line with other Mac hardware (incl the iMac Pro). Would be pleasantly surprised if there will be an interim silent spec bump on the 2017 iMac between now and then. Why not just announce it? Apple did a slide the TOTL MacBook Pro will get a newer GPU upgrade option
       
    22. Kotatsu Neko

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      I had an iMac a few years back having not had a Mac for quite a few years. I kept it for around 10 months then sold it. I found it a very disappointing product and a real misfire from Apple. Nice build quality and design (humongous bezels and atrocious mouse/keyboard aside) and lovely 5K 27" screen of course, but the internals (which I had pretty much maxed out when I got it) just didn't cut the mustard.

      Perhaps it depends on what you want a computer to do, but I use mine for a lot of 3D work, and the ancient PC I was replacing was considerably quicker than the iMac. I'm now back on Windows and performance is back where it should be.

      For me Apple need to sort out their 3D hardware and APIs. Using laptop GPUs in a desktop is frankly bananas, and their dogged insistence on using ATI when NVidia are streets ahead in performance is similarly illogical. And as for the APIs, obviously there's no DX, but the MacOS version of OpenGL is comically outdated and incredibly slow, and there's no sign of Vulkan ever showing up. They have Metal of course, but find me a pro 3D app that uses that if you can. Did Photoshop ever support Metal? When I used it on my iMac it was also painfully slow.
       
    23. Steven

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      @Kotatsu Neko, fair enough can only report personal experience. For me absolutely anything is faster :p Apple acknowledged missteps and the need to re-engage with Mac buyers. Still a work in progress though, for example the third generation butterfly keyboard on Mac notebooks still gets complaints

      Apple Still Hasn’t Fixed Their Keyboard Problems
       
    24. Over by there

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      I am guessing they are after design rather than function and this fits. But yeah, I would rather a beefier body if they can get the guts in, far rather that than "ohhhh look how thin we can make it".

      Problem is if they are selling the units, will they ever address it? Not with Cook at the helm I think.
       
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      A lot of people complaining about the price, which is justified in my eyes, Apple charge insulting amounts of money for their products when compared with other companies who offer similar products. Remember though that in buying their products, we are giving them permission to hike their prices with each new generation. As long as we keep buying, Apple is going to continue charging double what we should be paying. You've got to ignore the hype and vote with your wallets until they get the message.
       
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      Yep, I'd have fired a buy on a minor spec bump, the current model is more than adequate for my needs, but i'd regret buying it right now.

      I think I'm going to wait until the new one is announced, see how it stacks up against a mini set up, and make a decision then.

      Time to eek a few more months out of my 2009 Mac Pro!
       
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      Haven’t you contradict yourself here? Firstly you say its justified but then not to buy them?!?
       
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      I think he means the complaining is justified.
       
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      At this stage Apple are now just taken the piss with their product prices. Be it the MacBook, iPad or iPhone. They have increased the prices so much the last few years its beyond a joke. And this is coming from an apple fan!
       
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      Ahhhh. Yes. Now I’ve read it again, I notice my misunderstanding.
       

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