NEWS: Marantz announces NR1200 stereo receiver

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    1. Andy Bassett

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      Coming up as an error when I tried to reach this page?
       
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      Aha... I can see it now.

      It looks like a fine all in one amplifier, but with proper specs. And realistic power.

      I assume the sub outs have a high pass filter and if so this will make a mighty fine stereo setup with smaller speakers and a good quality sub, or two!

      Shame it doesn’t include Dirac. That would have been genuinely awesome. Though, naturally, more expensive.
       
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      so basically its a 2 channel av reciever. i dont see the advantage of going for this as most if not all muilti channel av recivers can run in 2 channel.mode.
       
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      They can make it smaller (no need for all the speaker outputs on the back).
       
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      A slimline processor would be nice. Thanks Marantz.
      Or a slimline avr with pre outs would also be cool.
       
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      Surprised it's taken so long for one of the mainstream brands to start producing a 2.1 receiver. I've been looking at the NR1710/NR1510 even though only using 2.1 config in my apartment. This could be a better solution if . Be good to compare each in 2.1/2.0 mode.
       
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      It has considerably more power than the equivalent 5.1 receiver.

      The 1502 for instance draws 180W for its five speakers.

      The NR1710, 250W for its seven speakers.

      The NR 1200, 210W for two speakers.

      (And the famed PM6006, 155W for its two.)

      And unlike just about every other comparable stereo amp, it is likely to have a high pass control for two subs.
       
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      This looks nice...I've been trying to hold out for a slim receiver for my tele & turntable.
      Going to sell my sound bar...and start with a pair of bookshelf speakers, center speaker & a sub.
       
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      The NR, I’ve no doubt, will, with a decent pair of speakers, mince even a good sound bar.

      But it is stereo only. No centre speaker.

      This would be more like it for you, especially if you plan to expand all the way to surround sound and Atmos.

      Marantz NR1710 AV Amplifier
       
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      Or this if you’d prefer just 5.1 or .2 with all the modern shizzle, except Dolby Atmos.

      Marantz NR1510 (Black)
       
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      Fantastic! Will definitely check it out..Thx.
       
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      That’s my plan sir.

      Summer after next alas... and ... :beer: is certainly part of the plan.
       
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      I forgot to add the point of this verbiage...

      It means that a considerably bigger range of better speakers can be auditioned with less concern over the receivers current capacity necessary.
       
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      Interestingly nr1200 has the same power consumption as the PM8006 but they take the distortion level at a lower reference point on that. As a result the PM8006 is spec'd at 70 w a channel.

      Considering the NR1200 also runs all the processing (a guess say 20-30w) you would consider the PM8006 in real world would drive speakers easier/better.

      But at the end of the day they are two different products aimed at different people.
       
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      I’d be surprised if the processing took more than 2-3 watts.

      Modern chips are astonishingly efficient.
       
    19. Jagjit

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      I think for pure stereo sound it’s a given that the analogue PM8006 wins. This is as you say aimed at a different people who want a stereo solution with HDMI & ARC.
       
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      Indeed, if I was in the market for a stereo amp, between the two, it would be the 8006 every time.

      But, as you say, for those who want to watch films as much as listen to music then the 1200 should be a blast.

      On top of the ARC and HDMI inputs, the best bit, I hope, is if the NR has some kind of bass management for the twin subs.

      Then that’ll be something to seriously consider especially for small speakers owners who’d like to add a sub.

      I imagine this might sell very well indeed.

      (One thing that annoys me about the 8006 is the lack of a good dac. Instead the cash was spent on a phono stage??? Despite protestations to the contrary vinyl is a tiny, minuscule market).
       
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      Marantz is probably working on the assumption that those that would purchase the pm8006 would either use the sister nd8006 as a DAC hub and the two are heavily promoted together. Sabre 9016 in the nd8006 I believe. The pm8006 is a good old bare bones analogue amp just my Rega.
       
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      Actually I’d forgotten about that. It would be a bit of self harm to make the PM as useful as the ND.

      Good point sir , cheers :thumbsup:
       
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      You could always get a mini DSP with DIRAC built in and go down that route?
       
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      I have already sir. For about two years. A mighty fine thing too.
       
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      Sorry, I don´t get it. An AVR with 2.0 processing plus 2 additional Subwoofer PreOuts?
      I understand the lust for stereo power.
      I understand the need for slim case receivers.
      I understand the urge for AVRs that are not getting red hot.
      And I understand that big AVRs are burning electricity and money, even when you are listening to Stereo Sources.
      Wouldn´t it make more sense if this piece had 2.0 and 5.1 and 7.2 processing with 5 additional PreOuts for an external 5 channel Amplifier?
      This way you wouldn´t need your own power plant or a cooling unit when you are listening Stereo Sources.

      Output for 4 Speakers? Nice. But I´d still prefer my solution above and in Stereo Mode the Surround PreOuts work as PreOuts for B Speakers.

      Let´s be real. For those who live in a city, it will never be possible to test the maximum output. I would prefer a Loudness Button for lower outputlevel listening instead.
       
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      The 1200 is a perfect buy for stereo listeners who do not want 5.1, 7.1 or any other number of speakers.

      The sub outs, assuming there’s even rudimentary bass management, are a godsend for those who would also like to have virtually full range speakers from a modest amplifier and those who want to indulge in some whopping film soundtracks with the full bass heft but in 2.1 only.

      There aren’t many ways to do that, so this is a potential gold mine.

      As for preouts for extra channels that would be a waste of effort for Marantz.

      They already sell the NR1510 (five channel) and the NR1710 (seven channel).

      Both in the same chassis, with the 1610 sporting all the current stiffies including Dolby Atmos.

      So if 2.1-2 is not for you, you do have two impressive choices in the same box.

      Also, again assuming the 1200 has high pass filters, then the already welcome high current 75W becomes effectively more when no longer driving the stereo speakers lower than around about 80Hz.

      Big wins all round for Marantz I’d say.

      As for the preamp outs, I’d say that people at this price point, and anything under at least two grand, almost universally don’t want, and can’t be arsed with, preouts and power amps and cable and faff.

      They’ll just buy one of the other NRs
       
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      It's a good move on the part of Marantz. Many people with a limited scope for a full surround sound will be more than happy with a stereo image. Bringing it's use a HDMI hub has tremendous value.

      If your usage is just for TV and film then it's going to fill a good marketing gap.
       
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      Usually though 2ch stereo amps have more power for left and right speakers than on muliti channel av receivers.
      I am a 2ch guy and find listening to movies in 2ch great nice and clear on my stereo setup
       
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      so thats the only real.benefit going for this over a multi channel avr.

      most home cinema enthusiastics will never go for 2 channel

      its £600... a lot of money to spend for a bit more power/control.. and no option to upgrade to multi channel in the future..
       
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      Its ideal for cinema fans who only have room for 2ch, or for those who don't want 10 speakers in your room, annoying the neighbours underneath you and too many speakers is really loud end up going deaf.
      My 2ch setup is loud enough
       

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