NEWS: LG V40 Announced: Features a Quad DAC, 5 Cameras and DTS:X

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    1. Aaron Macarthy Beards

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      Battery is the only thing I'm concerned about with this. Otherwise I'm looking forward to the phone Wide angle lens should be a must in all phones missed it since ditching the G6 for the Pixel 2xl
       
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      This is what you need to take from this article:
      And not get too excited. LG not only have a habit of not releasing their top flight devices in the UK, but also dropping key features in the name of "region specific" demands.
       
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      I'm hoping they have learnt their lesson with those past mistakes.
       
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      You would hope so, however surely this depends on whether they feel that they were indeed mistakes!:facepalm:

      :rotfl:
       
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      Haha. Fair point Only HTC are better at self imploding than LG mobile
       
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      Currently still using and loving my LG V30+ after using iPhones & Samsung's for years. The LG design/build quality has started to match the two big brands but for anybody interested in decent audio quality, especially able to drive many full size headphones, it has to be a LG with Quad DAC.

      I used to use dedicated DAC's or DAP's to power my Shure SE846 IEM's and Sen HD660S headphones but have since sold my Chord Mojo, HA2SE, Dragonfly Red, Fiio X5III and Sony ZX300.

      Some of the above are marginally better sound but the V30 (and supposedly V40) are very close to the best of the above but the usability & only needing a single device makes all the difference, and especially for trouble free streamed/offline media via the likes of Spotify/Tidal.

      Now going to read as much as I can about the V40 to see if enough to make me upgrade. I actually imported my V30.

      One great alternative recently especially if your phone can do LDAC or aptxHD BT audio is to get a EarStudio ES100 BT headphone AMP as this makes any phone sound excellent over wireless and even has balanced output.
       
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      @psikey good post. There should be more development in audio quality in smartphones as the dap market should not still exist in 2018. I think though that boat has passed and smartphones are driving towards Bluetooth audio as more manufacturers leave out the 3.5mm port
       
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      Great post psikey. Importing lg is the way to go Usually wait two months after release and the price drops quite a bit.
       
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      The ES100 BT AMP is the only time I've listened to wireless audio as good as (or nearly as good as) wired audio, unless "clinically" listening for the quality differences of HD FLAC;DSD or MQA tracks. Plenty power to drive the 150 Ohm HD 660S headphones too. Design & materials not the best but adequate.
       
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      I have a G6+ model.
      It is an Asian model with 128GB of storage and the Quad DAC.
      Recent update added ThinQ to it, which apart from two upgrades to the camera app, I can not detect anything else.
      Build quality is up there with Samsung, and after one year I can not complain about anything but one!
      First the positives:
      - Battery life is better than I expected.
      - Navigation locks very quickly, faster than my previous Galaxy S7.
      - Speed, functionality and stability is second to none.
      - The Quad DAC works! very well, resolution of sound on HD audio is quite high .
      Now my complaint:
      - the headphone amp is under powered!
      it does not drive my Ultimate ears IEM's loud enough, it runs out of steam at full volume, on that alone! my friend's Note8 does better.
      Turn the volume down slightly and all is good. BTW I am no head-banger, but when you are in a noisy environment, you need the extra oomph.
      I hope LG has addressed that in V40.

      However, this is such a minor complaint - so I am praising LG actually.
      Best phone and music player I ever had.
       
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      Doesn't the G6+ have the same 3 AMP levels as the V30? The V30 can power 300 Ohm headphones fine on its highest setting yet still perfectly drive my low 8 Ohm IEM's on its standard setting. You can force it to go to the higher AMP settings (with an adapter in the PH socket first) if your ear/headphones are on the limit. AMP setting is auto-selected by the phone based on impedance I think.
       
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      Please explain, what is 3AMP ?
       
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      On the V30 with the QUAD DAC the internal amp has 3 output levels:

      Standard; High Impedance, AUX. The phone auto-selects its amp setting dependant on the ear/headphones used.

      So with my 8 Ohm Shure SE846's it defaults to standard but with my 150 Ohm HD660S it defaults to High Impedance mode.

      Some people have ear/headphones that are just on the limit of Standard and can not get a good volume (usually they are under 50 Ohm) but if you use a certain adapter its possible to force it into the higher modes. I don't do it myself as the phone sets the mode just fine for my ear/headphones.

      I'm also assuming you have QUAD DAC enable because it can actually be disabled to use the Qualcomm DAC instead. I don't know if your G6+ works the same.

      Just search on google for more info if the G6+ is same: Triggering high impedance mode on V30 or G6
       
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      Interesting!
      How can I defeat it, or fool it into high Imp. mode?
       
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      Just search on google for more info if the G6+ is same: Triggering high impedance mode on V30 or G6
       
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      One person I read uses a headphone splitter then plugs in a cable (or high impedance adapter) into one port so phone detects high impedance, then plugs in his earphones in the other port, then unplugs the cable so he just has earphones into the twin adapter and phone still stays in the higher output mode.

      Plenty online or on head-fi about it.
       
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      Thanx.
      I just remembered, I do have another complaint about the phone:
      It does not have wireless charging! WTH
      I mean even Apple is now onboard, and we know how slow and stingy they can get!
       
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      V30 has fast wireless charging and so will the V40. I charge mine on my Samsung Wireless Fast Charger.
       
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      Well I have remedied the situation by getting a super slim charger receiver buried inside a Spigen skin, works just fine, but if I need the USB port, then I have to unplug things.
      Not a complete solution, but ...
       
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      I am surprised any iem would not have sufficient volume from any smartphone. The main issue is the lack of finer granular control that a DAP would provide
       
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      Well if I understand "finer granular control" correctly, then I did say that the quality of audio coming from G6+ is very good indeed, better than my outboard FiiO DAC/AMP, comparable to my home DAC.
      It just runs out of power too soon, which is understandable, as conserving battery power is one of the major concerns of any phone manufacturer.
       
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      Sorry, I mean smaller and more precise volume adjustments
       
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      That's the other great thing with the QUAD DAC's in the LG, it gives you DAP like volume steps. You get 75 levels but with the QUAD DAC off you get 15 like other phones.

      As examples:

      • with my HD660S in "High Impedance" mode I listen at 50-60.
      • with my SE846 IEM's in its default "Normal" mode I'd be listening at around 40-45
      • if I force the V30 to High with my SE846's I'd only be able to listen at round 20-24 and start to destroy my ears over 50!
      It really is amazing to be honest how good SQ is compared to the DFR/Mojo etc. Its actually better for low sensitivity IEM's as there is no background hiss or electronic noise of any kind. Totally black background. I could detect hiss with DFR/Mojo/HA2SE and with the Mojo even hear electrical interference type noise in the Mojo itself. I even had a trial of the Hugo2 for a couple of weeks and the SE846's even picked up some electrical noise in that. I used an iFi IEMatch with some devices to eliminate background noise with the SE846's.

      Only other devices I've had zero background noise with my SE846's other than the V30 is a couple of iPhones I've used and the Sony ZX300 DAP. If the ZX300 also did online/offline Tidal/Spotify I'd still also have that as its a beautiful device with excellent SQ especially via 4.4mm balanced.
       
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      I did check the different amp levels, never knew they existed, thank you Psikey!
      Yes the levels are there, though the mid level is not suitable for headphones or earphones as it can not handle the dynamics.
      But the high impedance mode is very useful, I need to make a gadget for it.
      I actually plugged in my 1970's Beyer headphones (300 ohm) into the phone, and it managed to drive them to respectable levels, which is something no other phone has ever managed to do.
      My hat's off to LG!
      But why keep it a secret?
       
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      I wonder why AV keeps telling us LG is an average phone, and often critisizes the screen and/or the camera. Put the screen into cinema/movie mode and you’ll get the colors corectly or should you wish so adjust the colo4 balance manually -its near perfect! I checked it using the pic quality control images and it matches the standars not worse than the current Samsungs (my wife uses S9) and Apple (company phone). As for the camera, i went for a quest with my team which was underground and the pictures we were able to make without proper lightning were way better than any Iphone. I guess the real reason behind crtitisizing the LG flagship is lack of thei4 marketing budget. All -IMHO
       
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      I thinks it's something fundamental to how Chord comstruct their devices they are very susceptible to picking up electrical interference. I had an extensive test of the original Hugo but the noise with iem put me off. Do not get me wrong, big props for pushing the personal audio market forward
       

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