While I appreciate the price is quite expensive, when you consider all you're getting and when you compare it to the Sony laser projectors, it's actually surprisingly competitive pricing. Compared to JVC's current line-up the Sony's weren't in the same ballpark, but with this new range they're not even playing the same sport!
I honestly don't know at the moment, but I think we'll find out the actual pricing towards the end of next week.Steve any news on UK pricing? Do you think we'll get shafted with a straight swap the dollar sign for a £ sign or can we expect some form of adjustment in our favour?
Will you be upgrading your N7?I honestly don't know at the moment, but I think we'll find out the actual pricing towards the end of next week.
I'm very, very tempted.Will you be upgrading your N7?
Highly likely, as this is the way it has always been, but to be confirmed.Steve any news on UK pricing? Do you think we'll get shafted with a straight swap the dollar sign for a £ sign or can we expect some form of adjustment in our favour?
Hoping it will be before thenI honestly don't know at the moment, but I think we'll find out the actual pricing towards the end of next week.
I'd wait for the review myselfI'm very, very tempted.
That's the million dollar question. The N7 delivers 80,000:1 on a peak brightness of 1,900 lumens, and the NZ8 delivers the same contrast at a peak brightness of 2,500 lumens. If the two had the same black floor the contrast ratio on the NZ8 should be higher due to the increased brightness.Hopefully they won't have the poor black levels as reported in your review of the JVC Z1 or I'll be hanging on to my N7
That's a bit of a fallacy, and one that I'm guilty of perpetuating. Laser projectors boot up faster than lamp projectors, but they still take a while. They do shut down much faster though, because there's no lamp to cool down first.Did the video say it still takes 40 seconds for NZ7 to produce picture from startup? I thought laser was like turning on a tv?
Yes, it takes my LS10000 about 20 seconds from switching on to producing a useable picture. It comes on faster than that, and displays the Epson logo - but almost exactly 20 seconds for it to finish booting and display the input image. (sad I know, but I've just timed it to confirm)!That's a bit of a fallacy, and one that I'm guilty of perpetuating. Laser projectors boot up faster than lamp projectors, but they still take a while. They do shut down much faster though, because there's no lamp to cool down first.
I guess it depends on how dusty your environment is, but I haven't had any issues with my N7 and that doesn't have a motorised lens cover.Yes, it takes my LS10000 about 20 seconds from switching on to producing a useable picture. It comes on faster than that, and displays the Epson logo - but almost exactly 20 seconds for it to finish booting and display the input image. (sad I know, but I've just timed it to confirm)!
The lower end of these is probably the only thing that could tempt me away from the Epson - better start saving!
Am I right though in saying these don't have a motorised lens cover? Does anyone without these find that an issue - I've been spoilt with the Epson.
So you don’t bother covering the lens at all? Or you cover it manually each time?I guess it depends on how dusty your environment is, but I haven't had any issues with my N7 and that doesn't have a motorised lens cover.
No I don't, mainly because the lens cap is tricky to get on and off. Epson's LCD projectors don't have a sealed light path, so keeping out dust is important. It's not really an issue with LCoS projectors like the N7 and LS10000.So you don’t bother covering the lens at all? Or you cover it manually each time?
If it remains clear without needing a cover, then that‘s good news - I had always assumed that because the Epsons have motorised covers that a cover was a necessity - if it isn’t needed, then that’s great. It leaves me reassured that the JVCs not having a cover isn’t an issue.
That's the million dollar question. The N7 delivers 80,000:1 on a peak brightness of 1,900 lumens, and the NZ8 delivers the same contrast at a peak brightness of 2,500 lumens. If the two had the same black floor the contrast ratio on the NZ8 should be higher due to the increased brightness.
with lumens just a point on this though is the p3 filter ... with filter applied and losses of 10% is only what am seeing on my N7 vs 25-20% they are saying for the Nz8/9 with p3 applied... so in reality then with p3 filter there is only about 50 lumens difference between these in peak luminance ?
thats only because the Z1 takes a massive 40% off peak lumens thats why they switch it off thank goodness they have been able to optimise the filter/laser on the Nz8/9 to get down to 25-30% losst also seems standard for the RS4500/Z1 to be run without the filter and ppl still picking that over an NX9. The next few weeks/months will be interesting!
I run with the filter myself and its pro calibrated doing an excellent job... with the dynamic tone mapping you can run at quite low peak luminance too as low as 22 FL for HDr.. though appreciate if need every FL you can get and run sans filter to give up full p3A fair point. Although I would always have been turning off the filter with an N7 to get all the lumens possible and after doing a few demos comparing on and off, would have been OK with that.
I meant they choose the results of the Z1 without the filter over the NX series with, so it's not the end of the world. I did see some benefit to the filter in demos, but it wasn't a big deal/selling point to me. Especially as bulbs dim and lumens become all the more important. Ironically it's more attractive with laser due to greater lumen stability and I definitely won't be using it with one.thats only because the Z1 takes a massive 40% off peak lumens thats why they switch it off thank goodness they have been able to optimise the filter/laser on the Nz8/9 to get down to 25-30% loss
Good to hear! I'm aiming at around 25 as the laser dims and good to know it still looks good.I run with the filter myself and its pro calibrated doing an excellent job... with the dynamic tone mapping you can run at quite low peak luminance too as low as 22 FL for HDr.. though appreciate if need every FL you can get and run sans filter to give up full p3
A fair point. Although I would always have been turning off the filter with an N7 to get all the lumens possible and after doing a few demos comparing on and off, would have been OK with that. It also seems standard for the RS4500/Z1 to be run without the filter and ppl still picking that over an NX9. The next few weeks/months will be interesting!