NEWS: IFA 2017: Acer Launch Two New 4K HDR Projectors

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    1. hodg100

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      Like bloody buses these 4k projectors now ;):D
       
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      I think the point is that the VL7860 is the smallest LASER projector on the market. That could be big news.
       
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      The marketing rhetoric sounds great, but then you realise that it may support REC2020 but can't actually display it (or P3), so can't really attain cinema-like colour accuracy...

      I've been wondering what a laser driven DLP would be like - if they can get a decent native contrast with well implemented laser dimming like the Epson's, then DLP could again be in the mix. Currently these new DLPs are lower native CR due to the greater resolution so look like older implementatins of DLP rather tan something new and groundbreaking.

      I do like the idea of a larger resolution chip with eshift though, and wonder if Epson and JVC will follow suit to keep costs down before they can do a cost effective 4K solution with decent contrast. Contrast makes a bigger visible difference than resolution, but doesn't sell projectors like 4K does, especially when most contrast claims aren't accurate anyway.

      This one claims 1.5 million to one sequential CR but in reality, will be much much less with actual content I would imagine (would love to be wrong though).

      Roll on the hands on reviews.
       
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      Just throw this out there - how about manufacturers say what they really mean rather than "supports" rec2020?
       
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      Happy days, just what we need, the more choice the better. Laser performance will be interesting to find out and how it compares to the other 4k dlp's with the bulbs in them.
       
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      Will this be very similar to the optoma uhz65 which is on the way ?
       
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      Smallest? Good?

      How about they make it twice as big and half the price? ;)

      By which I suppose I mean 4K projectors have everything going for them at the moment apart from costing an arm and a leg.

      I emphasise 'projectors' as LCD/OLED 4k flat screen displays have very quickly fallen to somewhere near the price their 1080p counterparts were just a few years ago, whilst 4K projector prices, whilst lowering, still remain stubbornly uncompetitive.

      Single chip DLP has an advantage here, due to the smaller number of lenses needed (lenses aren't getting cheaper - we've had 4K standard lenses and better for over 50 years). But DLP projectors have been falling behind LCD for quite a few years. Laser projection at the cinema appears to have conquered some of DLP's failings (black levels are said to be excellent), so isn't it time we started to see some of the trickle down into the home?
       
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      I would pay £5k for a laser true 4k projector right now if:-

      ideally at least 3000 colour lumens to give hdr a decent chance

      wcg/hdr compatible (not supported)

      black/contrast levels at least as good as my current Epson

      3D support

      I would probably want a native 4k device as well but not rigid on that if above issues covered

      I am betting all the above at least 2 to 3 years away at that price point
       
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      Exciting times. Looks like some momentum is gathering on 4K projectors which is only a good for the consumer. Maybe my plans for a dedicated room in a couple of years are less of a dream now...
       
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      According to the review below, it actually seems to deliver a pretty good image, though with only 86% of P3, but over 180,000:1 dynamic contrast (under 2000:1 native) and plenty of calibrated lumens:

      TEST ACER VL7860 : DLP 4K LASER - Projection et Homecinéma

      Certainly seems to be in the mix if the dynamic laser dimming works as wells Epsons and JVCs IMHO. I'd like to see one in action now.

      Gary
       
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      Interesting - how do we think this is shaping up against the Epson EH-LS10500?
      1500 vs 3000 lumens is certainly a difference.

      Looks like the Acer has manual zoom though.
       

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