NEWS: Fire TV 3 to get Cinema Mode?

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    1. Mark Hodgkinson

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      It's beyond me why the various manufacturers of streamers can't implement the correct frame rates from scratch. Totally imbecilic that we're in the age where very high quality video can be efficiently compressed and transmitted, but not played back at the correct cadence.
       
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      If they manage to do this, I hope they carry it over to the Amazon Video app. (on the Shield etc.)
       
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      I bought a cheap mini PC so I can set my own frame rate output to match the frame rate of the video. I would go back to a Fire TV box if this is implemented.
       
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      I find it very strange that the streaming boxes from big-name companies struggle to do what a Raspberry Pi does without a second thought.
       
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      It's not the boxes, it's the apps.

      The Shield plays local files at the correct frame/refresh rate just fine, but the apps (Amazon or Netflix etc.) don't.
       
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      It shows how few people notice these things. I guess even if this piece of software is implemented most owners would not turn it on. It is not going to be a priority for the box makers.

      When was the last time you heard someone say...."I just bought one of those Fire TV things - great bit a kit, but a shame about that frame skipping on slow camera pans....."
       
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      They could implement something as simple checking the display input capabilities and prompting the user during the first-time configuration with a simple yes-no question.

      Enable Auto Cinema Mode? Yes / No.
      May cause brief screen flicker when changing programmes.
       
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      the sony fmpx5 player could output netflix @24hz
       
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      Sure but the app on the Pi (Kodi) plays 23.976 (and any other refresh rate I tried) content from my NAS without frame skip. The same app, and others that I tried, on a Fire TV2 couldn't play 23.976hz without framskip.

      I seem to remember Intel make a similar mistake a few years back, somebody obviously thought 24p was literally 24hz and they couldn't play back 23.976 without frame skip.
       
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      Weirdly I get a frame skip every now and again at 23.976 on Amazon Video using a browser but not on Netflix.
       
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      That's useful to know. What OS is your Pi running?
       
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      Got the update today and it takes roughly 10 seconds of black screen to match up the frame rate on an LG E7 OLED. That’s no better than the Roku and I got some minor lip sync on Sneaky Pete UHD which was not there before.

      A nice touch is that you get a message telling you it is matching up the frame rate.
       

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