Maybe because those were mostly speculation posts prior to release this one is the “Official” thread.Oh lord, a 3rd new Epson laser projector thread!
Then maybe admin can stop the posts on the other 2 now .Maybe because those were mostly speculation posts prior to release this one is the “Official” thread.
I don’t think it need to be that impressive, tests done of the Z1 showed native contrast figures of 8K:1 yet it’s laser dimming made blacks looked as good as the N9.This is what we have been waiting for. Finally a successor to my old time favorite the LS10000. Now if we could just find out what the real contrast figures are...
*If you're not bothered by some of the artefacts that laser dimming implementations can introduce.I don’t think it need to be that impressive, tests done of the Z1 showed native contrast figures of 8K:1 yet it’s laser dimming made blacks looked as good as the N9.*
I reckon at the very least these will look better than the 9400.
Its not only about fade to black. I used to own the LS10K and going from that to the X7500 to X9500 was a huge step up in every way. I also didn't buy the Z1 because I wasn't happy with the contrast performance. I had the Z1 in for testing when I had the X9500.I don’t think it need to be that impressive, tests done of the Z1 showed native contrast figures of 8K:1 yet it’s laser dimming made blacks looked as good as the N9.
I reckon at the very least these will look better than the 9400.
The new projectors use transmissive LCD panels not reflecting as the LS10000 and LS10500 used.Its not only about fade to black. I used to own the LS10K and going from that to the X7500 to X9500 was a huge step up in every way. I also didn't buy the Z1 because I wasn't happy with the contrast performance. I had the Z1 in for testing when I had the X9500.
Having said all that if these new Epson have at least as good native contrast as the LS10K they are great value and well worth considering as an alternative to the new laser JVC line IMO.
I always liked Epson very much, my only gripe was native contrast but in their own league they are excellent and nothing beats them in terms of bang for buck especially now that these 4K laser.
this is going to throw a lot of folks i think.. with the naming thinking these follow in the old epsons lasers footsteps when they dont. they are really laser version of 9400.. but thats good too.. for folk with those gives them something to step uptoThe new projectors use transmissive LCD panels not reflecting as the LS10000 and LS10500 used.
I guess the native panel contrast vill be more similar to the TW9400 or close to half of what was achieved with the reflecting setup.
Disappointingly, it has been confirmed that none of the new laser models will support 3D.Anybody know if the new models support 3D ?
well if that's the case, the pricing reflects it well. I recently had a 9400 and a 9300 and they were both great in their own league, I assume the contrast on the new ones will be improved a little but when a manufacturer only discloses dynamic contrast ratio one can be sure they will not be JVC beating beasts. I am betting on real contrast 20K:1 or similar.The new projectors use transmissive LCD panels not reflecting as the LS10000 and LS10500 used.
I guess the native panel contrast vill be more similar to the TW9400 or close to half of what was achieved with the reflecting setup.
My tw9300 was 4500:1, I remember being a little disappointed coming from a Sony hw65.^I don’t expect it to be this high to be honest, maybe 7K:1 but dynamic control should be good, hopefully the laser dimming is well controlled.
What was the NC on the HW65, I had the 45 but felt the 9400 was slightly better. Shadow detail was definitely better on the Epson.My tw9300 was 4500:1, I remember being a little disappointed coming from a Sony hw65.
I think one time it was close to 6000:1 maybe a tad less.What was the NC on the HW65, I had the 45 but felt the 9400 was slightly better. Shadow detail was definitely better on the Epson.
I think that’s what the HW45 was tested at too, maybe the 65 was slightly more?I think one time it was close to 6000:1 maybe a tad less.
It had slightly better blacks for sure than the hw40 I had previously, where does the time go!.I think that’s what the HW45 was tested at too, maybe the 65 was slightly more?
Will be no-where near. The LS10000 only got there because of reflective panels (which got it to around 12K) and then the iris, which got it to around 20K (closer to 30K if you managed to be at the right end of the zoom lens). I think numbers have already surfaced for native at around 5000:1 on the LS12000, and a fair bit less on the LS11000 for some reason.well if that's the case, the pricing reflects it well. I recently had a 9400 and a 9300 and they were both great in their own league, I assume the contrast on the new ones will be improved a little but when a manufacturer only discloses dynamic contrast ratio one can be sure they will not be JVC beating beasts. I am betting on real contrast 20K:1 or similar.