I see that they cleverly said that no more figures will be released until Feb 2020, which gives enough time for later sign-ups to fill the holes left by the "7 Days free then bye bye" binge crowdShould they least wait until the free trial is over before pulling the party poppers?
I am being facetious really, it's not going to flop, and I don't think somehow Apple TV+ has 10m subs. But shouting and dancing at this stage is preposterous.I see that they cleverly said that no more figures will be released until Feb 2020, which gives enough time for later sign-ups to fill the holes left by the "7 Days free then bye bye" binge crowd
The Mouse is playing it well, publicity-wise
This pretty much sums up my thoughts on it...
Too much competition is definately very bad for the consumer. Forget terrestial TV, especially the BBC, and I have Netflix and Prime. Thats enough for me. The rest simply don't appeal. Even Disney + is a dubious outlay for me as I've seen the Marvel films once and dont really want to see them again. Same for most of the Disney films and Pixar. I have most of them on BluRay that I want so job done. Every series of the SImpsons ? So what.....
I know its individual but having Cancelled all Sky channels a couple of years ago and pondering the TV licence the last thing I want is to subscribe to multiple streaming services for all the different possible choices out there. I fear all the streamers are going to face a cliff edge soon. Consumers will decide they are paying too much for, in some cases, very specific preferences. The streamers will become even more insular and fragmented in the naive belief that people will pay anything. I don't believe thats the case and many will decide to do without. Netflix had it spot on until these newcomers starting pulling their shows. Disney should do a deal with Netflix for their content as should HBO and Paramont and Fox. But greed will out and they all want their snouts in the mythical bottomless trough they all believe exists
I agree Disney could probably be classed as the exception due to their wide ranging content as you say. The reason why they should merge with the likes of Netflix is for ease of access from a potentially more cynical public as the choice of films and shows only appear on one service and reduces market. I understand the business model and the drivers behind it but they must see sooner rather than later that its the road to apathy and confusion and even faster disappearing profits.
The likes of HBO, Fox and Paramount are more likely to see the light before others. But personally I cant see any attraction for Apple TV but they do have bottomless pits of money and maybe they would be better off buying Netflix or similar. But even for them that would be an astronomical price.
So for me the annoyance is the many, many choices and each has something even if its only one show I would watch but certainly not worth a subscription for.
I think it may well have the effect of reversing the trend away from physical media. If you only watch the odd Disney/Pixar film like the Toy Story collection then buy them on Bluray/4k and ignore the rest rather than pay a subscription for The Simpsons or Frozen
Perhaps I should just read a book....
They definitely have the poorest apps currently, but can’t help thinking a major reworking will come, but they don’t necessarily need the strongest app for navigation, so long as the quality is there in playback, and based on their latest homegrown shows coming in UHD and Atmos, surely the content quality is the major buying decision.Can't really agree on Amazon, if it wasn't for next day deliveries I would have canceled Prime ages ago. I can't believe their service looks so poor considering how much cash they have.
I thought a lot of these companies had been brought out or merged with others, I was under the impression for example that Fox was now owned by Disney or part of it was at least as well as ABC, ESPN and others.
AT&T and Time Warner merged so they will "own" HBO, CNN, Warner Brothers Studio and others.
I would expect more mergers and buyouts over the next few years, you might find the like of Netflix, Prime fall by the wayside or become the niche market for shows like The Stranger Things.
We also only have Prime because it's included with the next day delivery service that my wife wants for some reason, why she cannot wait a day or 2 is beyond me otherwise we wouldn't bother with it either.
With the free shipping on many items, Prime being included has worked out very cost-effective for us - we are not big "TV" watchers, so the content in Prime is enough for us. But, yes, the apps are not so good - I tend to search out items on the Computer & then add them to the Watchlist so we don't have to muck about too much with the App. I still don't get why they don't state that an item is Atmos on the Web interface - you kind of find out by playing it! I would have thought that this was something they would push as a feature. At least it's now easier to find 4K content than it was!They definitely have the poorest apps currently, but can’t help thinking a major reworking will come, but they don’t necessarily need the strongest app for navigation, so long as the quality is there in playback, and based on their latest homegrown shows coming in UHD and Atmos, surely the content quality is the major buying decision.
I think it’s slightly more complex than that.
Andy, does Disney know that they are missing out on more subscribers, but Samsung doesnt value owners of their older (Pre- 2016) models tv's and hasn't created a app for them?
So did Nokia once upon a timeNetflix has name recognition and an established fanbase going for it
I'm not sure you can be a fan of a service, esp. Netlfix. You can be a fan of a particular series, or of whole franchises like Disney have. Even the most stubborn 12 month subscriber to Netflix will eventually look at the reviews of new stuff this year and think again..
This is how I feel as well. If you've got kids, I can absolutely see the value of Disney+, but we have a bunch of the Marvel & Pixel Movies on disk already. Some of them are Blu Ray so I would enjoy seeing them in 4K / Atmos if available, the older Disney Movies, some titles we didn't get around to yet, plus I want to watch The Mandalorian .... but I would say, after about a Month, two tops, we wouldn't be going there much. However, we are not big TV watchers, so we're definitely not your average Disney+ (Or any of these services) subscriber.Disney may have a lot of content, but they still need to get a lot of new stuff. There's only so many times you want to watch SW, Marvel, Pixar... whatever. I don't think their massive library is the be all and end all, especially as a lot of people will own the stuff they really like already.