NEWS: Denon unveils CEOL N11 DAB music system

Idle Bull

Active Member
I always thought the CEOL range already had DAB and analogue? I'm sure my CEOL9 does.

EDIT: Just checked, it doesn't. But Internet is good for me as we have poor DAB reception here.
 

Crownshi

Standard Member
Not sure I get the point of am\fm and dab radio in the home. In the car yes. Just about any radio station these days can be streamed via t'interweb.
Also love how promo pictures never ever show any cabling. The placement in that photo would have the antenna hanging from the ceiling. 😂
 

larkone

Member
Not sure I get the point of am\fm and dab radio in the home. In the car yes. Just about any radio station these days can be streamed via t'interweb.
.....and in 99% of cases the streamed version is significantly better quality than the miserable bit rates (and mono only is some cases) offered on DAB.
 

larkone

Member
The trouble of stating 100% is someone always finds the odd ones that are different
ClassicFM MP3/Heart London MP3/Smooth Radio MP3 are all 128kbps as are their DAB streams
Though whether they are worth listening to is another matter. DAB/DAB+ was such a missed opportunity destined to quietly die in the corner due to lack of interest.
 

larkone

Member
Looks like it - not very enticing given it has internet radio as well
 

Cebolla

Member
The trouble of stating 100% is someone always finds the odd ones that are different
My remark was meant to be tongue in cheek, but it was actually true the last time I seriously looked into this a couple years ago (UK radio stations only) and I haven't seen anything to indicate otherwise since, eg:
UK Digital Radio Bitrates

ClassicFM MP3/Heart London MP3/Smooth Radio MP3 are all 128kbps as are their DAB streams
You forget that DAB's streams use ancient MP2 compression, which is about a third less efficient than MP3 - so 128kbps DAB is equivalent to ~96kbps MP3 internet radio, not 128kbps.

Though whether they are worth listening to is another matter. DAB/DAB+ was such a missed opportunity destined to quietly die in the corner due to lack of interest.
Indeed - that's why I'm not giving away that 1%. :)
 
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snooper

Active Member
...and the not inconsiderable difference in price now that the N10 can be picked up for as little as £330!
This ticks a lot of boxes (N10) along with the marantz melody as a one box solution when I finally ditch my separate cd & amp, but keep my speakers. The higher end alternative one box options are too expensive tbh.
 

MrCynical

Member
Not sure I get the point of am\fm and dab radio in the home. In the car yes. Just about any radio station these days can be streamed via t'interweb.
Also love how promo pictures never ever show any cabling. The placement in that photo would have the antenna hanging from the ceiling. 😂
Might be a bit UK-centric of me, but I wonder whether the BBC's petulant withdrawl of their stations from most internet radio services has something to do with it. This new CEOL doesn't have Chromecast so it can't use their suggested alternative (the BBC Sounds app via Chromecast from a mobile device).
 

OneSon

Active Member
I've been looking at the N10 vs the Cambridge Audio One. Not fussed about DAB so this may lower the N10 a bit in price.
 

Inigoth

Member
I was really expecting an update to ceol because im thinking about buying it, my hopes were that denon upgrade it to have a turntable input and capability to use bluetooth headphones. It seems no one of my wishes have been granted :(
 

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