NEWS: Cineworld Cinemas to reopen by 10th July

MikeTheBike2010

Active Member
My 26 yr old son considers both him and his friends to be very low risk and will be straight back to the cinema when it reopens.

For myself as an (over?) cautious 52 yr old with no underlying it’s going to be a while before I put myself in a cinema,theatre,bus or train unless I’m forced to by circumstance?

What is the present estimated COVID infection rate for the whole of the UK? 1 in 1000 people perhaps rings a bell so in a cinema of 100 people there is a 1 in 10 chance that a person with me for 2 hours could infect me?

Im not medically qualified in any way but take a keen interest and regularly listen to R4 excellent “More or Less” programme?

Very interested to learn what others think particularly those of my age bracket?
 

sdw

Active Member

nheather

Distinguished Member
My wife and I (in our late fifties) are both in a higher risk group so we are pretty apprehensive.

What is annoying is we are both Unlimited customers so unlike others who can decide whether to spend their money and take the risk, Cineworld will simply take our money (in fact they took a month in advance back in Mar/Apr) whether we feel safe going or not.

So our choice is pay and go or pay and don’t go.

Wheat concerns me is that most of Cineworld‘s stated precautions are to do with the foyer area and their staff.

There is little mention of how they will manage and enforce separation once in the cinema screening rooms. Nor how they will effectively deep clean between showings. Or whether the air in the room will continue to be recirculated.

I contacted them yesterday and got a simple “we haven’t worked out those details yet, please contact us again nearer the time”. We are only three weeks away from opening, how late are they going to leave it.

Question - if it is so safe for lots of customers to sit in a relatively small enclosed area, why do they need to provide all these plastic guards and PPE for their staff.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

La Finta Nonna

Standard Member
Great get them all open as soon as possible. Then it is up to us as individuals to decide on the risks. Personally I can’t wait to go back into a cinema and as we seem to be mentioning age mid fifties, the risk is mine to take.
 

bootstrapwill

Well-known Member
Nope. I won't risk it nor do I want to end up helping to overrun the NHS because of a luxury.
 

rammie

Novice Member
I'm over 60, and personally no issues in going. Especially if they are spacing everyone apart. To be honest, usually when I go, there's less than 25 people in there .

I'll be there the first week it re opens.
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
It does depend on how many go of course.

My concern is not Cineworld‘s intentions but people being able to follow rules. We all saw stupid scenes of beaches being packed out as soon as the sun came out.

So say there is still a 2m rule when it opens (accepting that it may have reduced to 1m by then).

So they have the booking system that apparently has some algorithm to ensure all individuals and groups are 2m apart. Okay so let’s say there are 6 individuals in a row - how are they going to get them seated, some sort of fancy boarding system that make sure people enter the room in the correct order so no one has to brush past you to get to their seat. And what about when someone wants to go to the toilet mid film, are they going to file everyone out the row in the correct order and then reseat them in the correct order when the person returns. And how they are going to ensure that once in the room people sit in the correct seats and don’t move about.

They are going to control this with what - 17 year old kids on zero-hour, minimum-wage contracts.

I get some don’t fear the risk, but I don’t want to be sat in my seat and have to deal with people brushing against me as they arrive or go for a piss.

As I said if I was pay as you go, not an issue I can choose whether to pay my money and take the risk. But as a Cineworld Unlimited customer I fear that I will be made to pay whether I want to go or not.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

tomwatts

Active Member

nheather

Distinguished Member
Here’s something interesting. Just a moment ago I got an email from them.

It says that Premium Unlimited (i.e. those with over a year membership) can freeze their membership by up to 3 months.

This applies to me, so it seems that I could say that I’m not happy returning until October.

But also says that this isn’t available to those who pay annually (regardless of how long they have been a member), or those in their fIrst year of a monthly membership.

I’d could just say “I’m alright jack“ but that doesn’t seem right to me. If someone is concerned whether it is safe why should they get different treatment depending on what type of member they are.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

VisionMan

Well-known Member
But also says that this isn’t available to those who pay annually (regardless of how long they have been a member), or those in their fIrst year of a monthly membership.
Thats illegal that and I know it for a fact. A provider cannot discriminate against annual and monthly payment subscribers if they are providing refunds, they have to apply them to them both. But its true first year monthly memberships don't qualify. In which case one can just cancel anyway.

If anyones having a problem, send a post or PM my way. I'm more than willing to help. :thumbsup:
 

SteveAWOL

Distinguished Member
My 26 yr old son considers both him and his friends to be very low risk and will be straight back to the cinema when it reopens.

For myself as an (over?) cautious 52 yr old with no underlying it’s going to be a while before I put myself in a cinema,theatre,bus or train unless I’m forced to by circumstance?

What is the present estimated COVID infection rate for the whole of the UK? 1 in 1000 people perhaps rings a bell so in a cinema of 100 people there is a 1 in 10 chance that a person with me for 2 hours could infect me?

Im not medically qualified in any way but take a keen interest and regularly listen to R4 excellent “More or Less” programme?

Very interested to learn what others think particularly those of my age bracket?
You’ll probably have heard professor Spiegelhalter’s appearance on More Or Less earlier this year but ICYMI... according to his latest blog an estimated 8% of UK population have been infected and as a healthy 52 year old male your IFR is 0.05% even if you’re unfortunate enough to catch SARS-CoV-2.

As a 42 year old male my Infection Fatality Rate is 0.02% but I’ll be wearing a cotton mask plus using hand sanitizer to minimise the risk of passing on virus to my elderly parents; much like I have been doing when grocery shopping for them since lockdown began.



 

password1

Well-known Member
1 or 2 metre it doesn't matter when someone sneezes or coughs its still going to linger in the air.

why risk it, the cinema is not essential.
 

domtheone

Distinguished Member
Great stuff.

Be great to catch some old classics on the big screen, so i hope cinemas do show a variety.
 

Drax1

Distinguished Member
 

VisionMan

Well-known Member
1 or 2 metre it doesn't matter when someone sneezes or coughs its still going to linger in the air.
why risk it, the cinema is not essential.
It doesn't take a scientist to work that out. Its purely a matter of personal choice.
 

nickkuk

Standard Member
I wont be going anywhere near a cinema until at least Christmas. Dune is the only film scheduled that would even remotely tempt me to visit the cinema.
 

password1

Well-known Member
It doesn't take a scientist to work that out. Its purely a matter of personal choice.
the government said they follow the science and they do the right things to saves lives, not all about money.

i dont remember the government saying they will ignore some of the science and compromise on health and safety or sacrifice a few lives for the good of the economy.

why is 1 metre safer than 2 metre is beyond belief.
 

MikeTheBike2010

Active Member
You’ll probably have heard professor Spiegelhalter’s appearance on More Or Less earlier this year but ICYMI... according to his latest blog an estimated 8% of UK population have been infected and as a healthy 52 year old male your IFR is 0.05% even if you’re unfortunate enough to catch SARS-CoV-2.

As a 42 year old male my Infection Fatality Rate is 0.02% but I’ll be wearing a cotton mask plus using hand sanitizer to minimise the risk of passing on virus to my elderly parents; much like I have been doing when grocery shopping for them since lockdown began.



Thank you, Dr S is a bit of a hero isn’t he!

Whilst I do appreciate the statistics I remain concerned, not just at the deaths from Covid but the long term consequences if one suffers badly with it?

Stay safe and do please keep your sense of sensible perspective on the whole matter.
 

TheyCallMeTJ

Distinguished Member
Here’s something interesting. Just a moment ago I got an email from them.

It says that Premium Unlimited (i.e. those with over a year membership) can freeze their membership by up to 3 months.

This applies to me, so it seems that I could say that I’m not happy returning until October.

But also says that this isn’t available to those who pay annually (regardless of how long they have been a member), or those in their fIrst year of a monthly membership.

I’d could just say “I’m alright jack“ but that doesn’t seem right to me. If someone is concerned whether it is safe why should they get different treatment depending on what type of member they are.

Cheers,

Nigel
Just so you know, annual payment members get 4 months extension on their membership. It's stated on their FAQ.
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
Just so you know, annual payment members get 4 months extension on their membership. It's stated on their FAQ.
Yes I saw that but it wasn’t clear whether it was an extra 4 months or just making up for the 4 months that they lost.

For example, say they bought a 12 month membership in July 2019, it would run to July 2020. But they were stopped from using it mid-march 2020 so if their membership was allowed to expire in July 2020 as originally planned they would lose 4 months. So the end date has been extended by 4 months so it ends in Nov 2020 rather than July 2020 but they still only get a total of 12 months use - they haven’t been given any extra.

I agree it isn’t clear but the fact that the extension is exactly the same length as the closure makes me think it isn’t extra free membership.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
You’ll probably have heard professor Spiegelhalter’s appearance on More Or Less earlier this year but ICYMI... according to his latest blog an estimated 8% of UK population have been infected and as a healthy 52 year old male your IFR is 0.05% even if you’re unfortunate enough to catch SARS-CoV-2.

As a 42 year old male my Infection Fatality Rate is 0.02% but I’ll be wearing a cotton mask plus using hand sanitizer to minimise the risk of passing on virus to my elderly parents; much like I have been doing when grocery shopping for them since lockdown began.



These academic studies are all well and good but we have actual UK Covid-19 figures to look at. My concern is that the UK infection and death rate is not slowing that fast. The figures for yesterday were

1,346 new infections and 173 new deaths.

Note that these are infections that have got to the point of being reported and tested positive, so the actual number of new infections will be a lot higher than that.

Yes I agree that you can’t simply apply this over any population as it is skewed by underlying health conditions and age.

I applaud the cautious getting back to normality, relaxing the lockdown, but the daily infections and deaths are still too high to be considering cinemas at the moment.

We have three weeks to go, so hopefully the infection/death rate will have fallen off a lot by then but if not I think the opening should be delayed.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

Skull n Bones

Well-known Member
If anything local to me opens on the 10th July and is showing anything half decent, I'll be pre-booked or first in the queue. Inception on the 17th would be great, and the less people the better, not worried with coughers, just phone users and moaners.
 

VisionMan

Well-known Member
We have three weeks to go, so hopefully the infection/death rate will have fallen off a lot by then but if not I think the opening should be delayed.
There are a few theories (scientific not social media) that this virus is now in the eco-system and is here to stay, much like the flu. I've also been surprised (and shocked) to learn how many people die from flu every year, stats that I've only seen since this virus hit the world.
 

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