NEWS: Apple Reportedly Planning Global Streaming TV Service

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    1. Aaron Macarthy Beards

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      Apple Genius/Staff :rolleyes:,have now been told to tell all its customer,the World not quite round its this shape :eek:

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      Apple have been trying for years to change in a big way how we watch TV but like mentioned, it never happens. They're too scared to overcome the advertisers
       
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      Just what we need.... another streaming service to fragment the market further, with us consumers the ones losing out and expected to pay more... for less.
      No thanks..
       
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      There have been a few pointers elsewhere on the web with hired people and the possibility of free for ATV owners etc. All rumours.

      Higher rates for 4k, win for me if the content is good.
       
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      I don't agree with this. We vote with our wallets. Fragmentation only happens if that's what the market votes for. Just don't be a mug and sign up for 4 different services :)
       
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      And then we will end up with some collapse and we will be back to a few again. What happens when something comes up on a service you haven't got but want to?
       
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      Lots of different services isn't too much of a problem. It's when they start imposing 12 months minimum terms it becomes less accessible. The ability to dip into Netflix on a per month basis is fantastic and gives us freedom to leave, thus chop 'n' change between the services at will. It's up to them to captivate us with content. So far I've only had one break of a few summer months once in 2 years.
       
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      Initially got Netflix for films and TV series. Not really sure I will keep it past this TV series I am watching. Films have been hit and miss, 4K I am unimpressed with. New content hit and miss. Maybe the competition will make them up their game, pricing should get interesting with some deals perhaps.
       
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      I understand where you re coming from ninja.
      However inevitably everyone end up competing for the quality 3rd party content (and potential create some good stuff of their own).
      The consumer gets less for more (less of the good content but paying more for it)
      Worst case scenario is they get fed up and look to get what they are missing via illegal means, which doesn't really benefit anyone
       
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      People are going to steal no matter what.

      Apple can afford this and afford it if it fails I think, netflix have the silver down the pawn shop along with the kitchen sink from what I read.
       
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      everyone entering the market just creates tons of services but youve got to have content netflix make their own so they should be fine even if they loose more content to the likes of apple amazon etc fighting for the rights to 3rd party content.

      eventually content creators will get wise like Disney have who are pulling their content and 20th century foxs content for their own streaming service creating even more fragmentation
       
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      Why don’t Apple just buy Netflix and have done with it?
       
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      The debt?

      The numbers look interesting. Customers and income vs borrowing.
       
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      Netflix is riding high atm but at the cash burn rate which they are going through on original content, they’ll be weighing in their nans jewellery in a couple of years
       
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      I pick the service that has the most shows I want (Netflix). Anything elsewhere, I will simply forego. Firstly, I accept that I don't need to see everything. I've missed out on some popular shows and I can live with that - there is so much other stuff to go around. Secondly, it is just TV. As much as I like movies and TV, some perspective here helps and I see buying Sky, Netflix, Amazon, NowTV, BT, as a bit gullible and indication of watching excessive TV. It's a first world problem. On the commercial side, all those services are just unsustainable. There will be winners and losers over the long-term.

      Surely, what you describe means there will be a leveling of the playing field by market forces. Illegal streaming is one of those forces - if you don't make things cheap and accessible, your market value is eroded through nefarious means.

      You get what you pay for. If we pay to sustain 10 different streaming services, that's exactly what we'll get.
       
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      this fragmentation of the market is one of the causes of piracy people just one place to get everything and you can do that via piracy.
       
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      I suspect that people will just look for excuses and will do it anyway. I remember when a certain well known broadcaster first starting using encryption and the only game in town (as far as many were concerned despite many more services up there), and everyone down a pub knew someone who could crack the encryption.
       
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      I'm in the same boat as you @silent ninja - i just subscribe to Netflix and will dip in and out of NowTV when Game of Thrones returns.
      I watch very little, if any live tv, don't both with sky or bt (i enjoy watching the footy as much as the next man but i tend to be either doing family stuff or out and about when the games are on tv at the weekend).

      Its unlikely i'm the target audience but i'm certain that this will go the same way as the football subscriptions (most people i know don't double dip but will go either Sky or BT ….or possibly only have both because they got a massively discounted offer) - i think most people will stick with one, or at most two of Netflix/Amazon/Apple/Disney/Nowtv etc etc

      As you point out Netflix numbers look good on paper but the figures don't add up for long term sustainability.
      The other danger they have is that when/if they reduce the level of investment in new content, people will simply switch to another service.
      You cant rely on customer loyalty in this sector...
       

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