NEWS: Apple Music subscribers get lossless tier and spatial audio from June

decson74

Active Member
… But wouldn’t it automatically remember those settings anyway? I’m pretty sure if I have my Apple TV set to audyssey Reference. And then switched to my PS4 it would go to audyssey flat. As it remembers how each source was set.

I was hoping / wondering if quick selects could be set for ONE particular source. So if my Apple TV is currently set to reference while I’m watching a movie, but mayb I’d want to change it to FLAT to listen to Apple Music, I could just tap a quick select button rather than going into audyssey settings and changing it manually.
I have quick select 1 set to Apple TV with speaker preset 1 audyssey reference set.
If I click on 4. Turns mode to stereo and speaker preset 2 with flat selected.
 

ScottC25

Active Member
Hello. I have an older non-atmos receiver. Will atmos tracks play in vanilla 5.1?
My receiver does Atmos, but I have no Atmos speakers connected, and its still playing the atmos tracks etc in 5.1.

Still sounds pretty good. I'm working on SWMBO to get some holes cut in the ceiling to add atmos speakers.....
 

tom 2000

Distinguished Member
My receiver does Atmos, but I have no Atmos speakers connected, and its still playing the atmos tracks etc in 5.1.

Still sounds pretty good. I'm working on SWMBO to get some holes cut in the ceiling to add atmos speakers.....
She good with a saw?
 

nickdun

Standard Member
I use the Korg player on my iPod ... is fine with ALAC and FLAC
I don’t see this listed in the app store.
Software is called iAudiogate ... by Korg
 

tausifs

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As a long time subscriber of only iTunes Match (10 yrs), I wonder if Apple will finally have me hooked on Apple Music. I plan to try it out today. I think I have an email invitation for a 2 month free Apple Music trial which is 4-8 weeks old , I hope it’s still valid as I have help out using it until the upgraded service was available.

I have ATV 4K (the first gen) and an Onkyo TX-NR646 that supports Dolby Atmos.

The Onkyo amp supports “high-resolution digital music files via USB storage device or a networked computer (up to 32bit/384kHz resolution it says on the box)” - so I hope this avails Apple Music hi-res audio for me.
 
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Chinstroke

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As a long time subscriber of only iTunes Match (10 yrs), I wonder if Apple will finally have me hooked on Apple Music. I plan to try it out today. I think I have an email invitation for a 2 month free Apple Music trial which is 4-8 weeks old , I hope it’s still valid as I have help out using it until the upgraded service was available.

I have ATV 4K (the first gen) and an Onkyo TX-NR646 that supports Dolby Atmos.

The Onkyo amp supports “high-resolution digital music files via USB storage device or a networked computer (up to 24-bit/192kHz resolution)” - so I hope this avails Apple Music hi-res audio for me.
It will give you Lossless but not full Hi Res. The apple Tv is limited to outputting 24 bit 48khz. Having said that the majority of lossless content is below that resolution anyway. You will also have access to the relatively limited Atmos content as well
 

tausifs

Well-known Member
Ok thanks. Is the same also the case for the new ATV 4K , ie. that it doesn’t support hi-res audio output ?
 

tausifs

Well-known Member
I took up the free AM trial.

I have a 1st gen Retina display iPad mini with a 2.5mm headphone socket. I should probably use something better than the 2.5mm jack Apple ear pods though, only other wired headphones - I have are a pair of Sennheiser HD205 which sound ok for a budget headphone, will have to try it out with these.

EDIT- unfortunately, my iPad mini doesn’t support beyond iOS 12.5.4 . Although it plays Apple Music , I’m not sure if it supports Lossless or Spatial audio.

EDIT #2- worth noting this, luckily I already have a lightning to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter, though the quality of the in-built DAC is likely to be modest at best.

“Can I listen to lossless audio using Apple’s Lightning to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter?
Yes. The Lightning to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter is designed to transmit audio from the iPhone’s Lightning connector. It contains a digital-to-analogue converter that supports up to 24-bit/48 kHz lossless audio”
 
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tausifs

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If the Lightning to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter contains a digital-to-analogue converter that supports up to 24-bit/48 kHz lossless audio, then so probably do the lightning EarPods.

I am trying out a pair of lightning EarPods i had lying around, comparing AAC version of tracks vs the Apple Music lossless. I think even using the humble lightning EarPods , there is a indiscernible difference.

I have to say it’s brought the wired Ear pods back from the dead for me and might be my go to earphones for enjoying quality music given the convenience of their size , I only wish they had a case that wound up the wires in a more user friendly way so I don’t I will be passing over my Air pods.

Would be sweet if these lightning ear pods were refreshed with a DAC that supports HiRes up to 24bit /192 kHz . But I doubt that will happen somehow.
 

Beardy101

Active Member
I'll give this a trial when it eventually comes to the android app. Currently trialing Amazon and can get 24/96 with the supplied wired AKG in ear headphones and my S20. Also have a IFI HIP DAC with Philips Fidelio X3 to try it with for 24/192
 

whitesnake11

Well-known Member
My grandson asked me if Apple Hi Res and Atmos music would play on his Amazon Echo Studio speaker, I didn’t know. Does anyone out there know as I’ve googled for an answer and still not found anything.
 

HeweyBoy101

Active Member
Is it correct that Atmos tracks in Apple Music are lossy (i.e. AAC 256 bitrate) and not full lossless?
Obviously the same tracks are lossless if Atmos is switched off in the settings.
Would seem strange if true?
I am sure I read this somewhere but cannot find the source now!
 

Chinstroke

Active Member
Is it correct that Atmos tracks in Apple Music are lossy (i.e. AAC 256 bitrate) and not full lossless?
Obviously the same tracks are lossless if Atmos is switched off in the settings.
Would seem strange if true?
I am sure I read this somewhere but cannot find the source now!
It is Lossy but I believe that it is in the Dolby Digital Plus container so the bitrates are larger than AAC. According to Dolby these are between 384 and 768
 

3rdignis

Active Member
Lossless on Apple music sounds better than tidal at £10/month.

Non lossless on Apple music sounds worse than tidal at £10/month.

2-3 months free, apple looks good so far :)
 

Beardy101

Active Member
Looks like it's arrived for Android at last.
 

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Spencem

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Is that in the UK, not seen an update yet for mine.
 

Beardy101

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Spencem

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Mine has updated as well now. Just in time for a long drive home. I did a couple of back to back comparisons with Spotify and think I prefer Apple's sound quality.
 

pat clancy

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Hi all, what do I need to do get Apple music in Dolby Atmos , My phone is android ,do I need to subscribe to Apple music ,will any earphones work?
 

JayCee

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This explains what you need.
 

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