NEWS: 8K TV growth predicted by reports

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    1. Andy Bassett

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      Bluntly, 8K can go **** itself.
       
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      I am looking forward to these 8K tvs, bring it on. :)
       
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      The availability of true 8K content is going to remain extremely restricted for some years,“ Michael Goodman, Director TV & Media Strategies, said. “Many content providers and distributors are still migrating to 4K from basic HD and will see little justification in investing in 8K when so few viewers will see any benefit for many years...

      That says it all....
       
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      Absolutely.
      Just another attempt to get consumers to upgrade their perfectly good TVs.
      I mean, how good can a picture get?
       
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      There is such a thing as upscaling though...
       
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      The picture can get very good, but the problem is with capture (expensive optics) and delivery (storage medium, increased data rates, and delivery) all not ready for 8K.
       
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      For content creators like myself, filming in 4K is useful for publishing in 1080p... and 1080p looks good enough most of the time. If the delivery requirements are 4K, a lot of creators would like 8K capable cameras.... which are just around the corner if not already here in the super high-end market.

      But If 8K TV gets a stranglehold with consumers, demand for 8K content will increase and content creators will look to acquire in 16k ... which doesn't exist... Yet!

      And round and round we go.

      The thing is, its not just the costs of the TV and the cameras, its the storage costs and rediculously powerful (and expensive) computers needed to edit it.
      Speaking of computers, most of the CGI work for 4K films done now is in 2K because the processing power isn't there... so we're already watching upscaled content on UHD Blu-rays.

      Its getting a bit silly.
      Years ago, you could see the technology around screen resolution evolving to compete, making the upgrade to full HD and 4K seam feasible.
      But the processing power and thermal management needed to deal with the ENORMOUS volume of data for 8K (or 16k!!!) content aquisition, is not keeping pace.

      Just because you can squeeze more pixels on to a panel doesn't make it either practical or useful.

      I can see me eventually getting an 8K camera for 4K distribution, but 8K TV's can get lost!
      I neither need nor want an 8K TV.
       
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      With affordable screens being either 55” or 65”, is there really any point?

      With a lack of native 8k content and high prices, it will be a long time yet IMO ......
       
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      You a need a huge tv to benefit from 8k, so cant see it catching on in uk where 65 is considered a very large tv and we dont all live in mansions with rooms large enough to accomodate a 100" tv.

      How many tvs larger than 65" are sold relative to 55/65?
       
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      I don't live in a mansion i live in a flat and my next tv will be an 8K 75".
       
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      You won't see any appreciable difference between a 4k and 8k 75in TV though, unless you are sitting at retina burning viewing distances, so why bother?
       
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      If they can grow it (transport and processing etc.) a reasonable rate and reproduce the demo I saw then I am in. Not now, but a few years down the line.

      Wonder if five years time I look back and see that 4K was a stepping stone to better things.
       
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      Trouble is, buy now and when content becomes available you suddenly realize that the nice 8k TV you got 2 years ago is useless and can't display the 8k material. Just like the first 4k TV that came out.
       
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      ^^^^
      Tis why I let others take the hit.

      I jumped in on 4K just when I thought it was doable, that is broadcast live. Might be my metric for 8K, streaming live in a few years time. Have to wait and see what the new codecs arriving next year can do. NAB is on at the moment, seeing mentions of 8K getting talked about there.
       
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      8K TV's are currently very expensive but so were 4K when they were first introduced. The best 4K and OLED TV's are still outside my price bracket though. My first foray in to 4K was via a Hisense 65" K710 TV. I still regret disposing of it. The difference in picture quality between 1080p and 4K was amazing. I am now on my second Hisense TV, an H65N6800 which provides, in my opinion a beautiful 4K picture although HDR is disappointing. I suppose for the price I could not expect brilliant HDR. I will definitely be buying an 8K TV when the time comes for a replacement, hopefully a 75" version. Must start saving more of my pension.
       
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      Considering most consumers with 4k tvs are watching programmes in hd or even sd most of the time I can't see any point to 8k tvs anytime in the near future
       
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      I only ever watch progams transmitted in HD on my 4K TV, never in SD. I also watch the occasional Netflix film with my 4K subscription. 4K upscaling provides me with a fantastic picture. Having watched several reports on 8K TV's on You Tube it will definitely be my choice when the time comes to replace my current 65" 4K HDR TV.
       
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      So if there's something you'd like to see on a channel that only broadcasts in SD you won't watch it ?
      I take it you don't watch BBC local news either
       
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      Perhaps I should have said that for 99% of the time I never watch programs broadcast in SD. I also very seldom watch the BBC local news.
       
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      Thought my local news was in HD (Wales) but I tend to avoid it. It is a tad wishy washy sucky uppy to the assembly politicos with about every news story and if someone in China dies and their uncles cousins friend had a distant Welsh relative they cover the story.

      Not forgetting OFCOM probably has a hand in this and legacy stuff that cannot just be cut out.
       
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      Yeah, that'll work.
       
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      All this talk of 8K when Sky charge you extra just for HD as if itsi the latest thing. Greed will always hold things back. :(
       
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      They charge even more to get 4K. Movies and sports on Sky Q.
       

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