perhaps they appreciate tidy genitaliaCue more bitching and whinging about what is 8K, the equivalent of two bald men fighting over a comb
LOL That is so funny. Thank you for making this man Laugh.perhaps they appreciate tidy genitalia
8k is coming regardless of whether there is an appetite for it beyond the niche. Manufacturers need to demonstrate technological progress and that will trickle down to benefit non 8k adopters. The push for more efficient codecs will help drive image quality for those with capped or poor bandwidths and will benefit streaming services and streaming to mobile devices.
Exactly. If you have four times the bitrate to improve picture quality, once you're at 4K you want to be putting that into less compressed video and, God forbid, lossless audio.Its not a fate accompli, if nobody buys 8K then display makers will move away from it.
Thats why this "new" 8K specification I bet is just adding more bells and whistles in a desperate attempt to make it more appealing.
You would have better quality from upping the bitrate on a 4K video with a newer generation video codec than wasting that bitrate on 8K resolution.
Yep. Bull***t of the highest order.As I keep saying, 8K is just another gimmick by TV manufactures and their patrons on AV industry to push 8K down our throat. We're lead to believe by them that even though 8K content is not here, we just get great picture by upscaling HD and 4K, which is nonsense as owners have mentioned.
Exactly. If you've watched Apple TV+ programmes like The Morning Show and See on a large enough screen, the 40Mbps Apple is pushing the 4K bandwidth up to is clearly visible on-screen. It matters. I don't think I'd even notice 8K via a highly compressed codec by comparioson.Obviously 8k is a natural evolution, but we're not anywhere near even 4k being the norm.
It always feels like the industry moves on to the next standard too quickly. For example there are still a lot of channels on Sky/Virgin with no HD counterparts and 4k is barely there for broadcast content. Some streaming services aren't even streaming multi channel audio...Discovery+ and Sky Q on demand spring to mind (at least for TV shows). And live sport on Amazon Prime being 25fps is ridiculous.
When 4k was getting going we were asking for higher bandwidth 1080p on streaming because it looked better than low bandwidth 4k and like multiple people here have said, I think most of us would prefer they use the new codecs to push 4k bandwidth up and work on better audio as well as helping those that still have slow internet connections to at least get 1080p at a decent bitrate.
I wish they'd get us to where we have at least 1080p DD+ on everything and 4k with lossless Atmos on most things across both broadcast and streaming and then work on 8k.
I guess the thing is, all this doesn't make them as much money as pushing the next big thing and being forwards compatible with it.
It's a good point and a good example. Another would be NOW TV. Even with 'Boost' that ensures some shows are shown in 'full-HD' (sorry, what year is this?), the codec they use, and its inadequately low bitrate cap mean there are always highly visible compression artefacts, and when scenes get busy the whole thing falls apart. Just like 4K, not all 'full-HD' is created equal. By contrast a 1080p movie bought from and streamed via iTunes/Apple Store can often look stunning, with none of those problems.Very telling I thought that the UHD HLG Demo material on BBC iPlayer is preceded by a statement that the footage is shown using "much higher bitrates than normal".
A tacit admission that their "efficient" low bit rate HD codecs are basically a load of old bollox.
Very telling I thought that the UHD HLG Demo material on BBC iPlayer is preceded by a statement that the footage is shown using "much higher bitrates than normal".
A tacit admission that their "efficient" low bit rate HD codecs are basically a load of old bollox.
TV manufacturers will tell consumers a lot of nonsense to sell tv's. The AI upscaling on 8k Samsung and LG tv's uses artificial digital noise reduction and edge enhancement so it's actually giving you a inaccurate picture with AI upscaling turned on.As I keep saying, 8K is just another gimmick by TV manufactures and their patrons on AV industry to push 8K down our throat. We're lead to believe by them that even though 8K content is not here, we just get great picture by upscaling HD and 4K, which is nonsense as owners have mentioned.
TV manufacturers will tell consumers a lot of nonsense to sell tv's. The AI upscaling on 8k Samsung and LG tv's uses artificial digital noise reduction and edge enhancement so it's actually giving you a inaccurate picture with AI upscaling turned on.
But I do disagree that 8k as a whole is a gimmick apart from the artificial AI upscaling. I saw in person 2012 real 8k footage of the London Olympics filmed by Panasonic in the BBC studio's. On a massive screen and it was mind blowing so realistic.
That sold 8k for me in the future when most programmes, films, sports are eventually filmed using 8k cameras. And it will happen sooner than you think, some films are already filmed in 8k. Just needs Netflix, Disney+, Amazon Prime to start the ball rolling for 8k streaming. And Sky, BT will likely broadcast some sports in 8k in the future.
Apple TV and Amazon Fire box show Amazon football @ 50fps.
I bet the 2012 8k footage wasn't compresssed.