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Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by shandyswiller, Feb 9, 2005.

  1. shandyswiller

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    Newcomer just registered but have read loads of great comments so far. Never had a good system before but want one now. Wanting to be HD ready but all the tech side is baffling to me. Thinking of a Pioneer PDP435XDE plasma; Denon 3805 amp;Denon 3910 DVD player; Arcam CD73 CD player; As for speakers looking at Quad 22L for fronts and 21L for rears with quad subwoofer. Centre spreaker confined by depth so looking at Artcoustic DF Multi centre because depth must be less that 6 inches.

    Any comments or suggestions on this set up would be most welcome. Also thought of Monitor mAudio S8i (fronts) and S5 or 6 for rears. Or Castle conway 3 (fronts) and sterlings for rear.

    Usuage will be 65% DVD and 35% audio.

    Do I need floor standers for rears or would bookshelf speakers be better (and cheaper)?

    Which mix of speakers would be best?

    More than anything, I am really concerned about the centre speaker cos it carries the bulk of the information so any alternative suggestions would be appreciated.

    Ifound the MAS8i had big bass compared to Sterlings and Quad22L also. For DVD use is this a big advantage but down side for audio??

    Thanks in advance for your responses.

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    Hey mate,

    I can't claim to know alot about home cinema (more a stereo fan) but here's a few things I've picked up:

    Its really important for the centre speaker to sonically match the front L and R, that way when people are moving about on the screen you get a seamless integration between all three channels. The best way to acheive this is probably to use speakers that were designed with each other in mind, ie from the same line. Not to say that other set ups won't work, just it may be much harder to get the integration. Is it really impossible to fit in an 8 or 9 inch deep centre speaker??

    Whether you want floorstanders or standmounts for rears i guess is just personal preference (how big is your room). As a general rule, standmounts give a tighter, more defined sound, whereas floorstanders tend to have more impact (so if you've a really large room they are probably the ones to go for) but a little of the clarity is sacrificed. My personal opinion would be to go for the standmounts, if anything, they will be cheaper allowing you to spend more elsewhere.

    The Quads have really great reviews for music, im not sure about film, but I don't see why they wouldn't be great. I'm a fan of the MA's but there really is a lot of choice out there and everyone has different opinions (as im sure you gathered already). Basically, its great to take advice off people, but what you really wanna do is test things out for yourself, and if it sounds good for you, to hell with what everyone else thinks. Find yourself a good dealer who is patient and willing to spend alot of time on you.

    The denon 3805 is a great receiver and quite a bargain. I'm sure other people will chip in with their comments eventually though.

    Cheers
    Matt
     
  3. shandyswiller

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    thanks Mather54

    Room is 24 foot by 12 foot. looking at cutting down Adam style fireplace by 6 inches to lower plasma but on a new build house i would have to take out the breeze block which would expose the flue for the gas fire. Concerned about the heat and if I mount it on the top of Adam fireplace, (the mantle is 6.5 inches deep) any bigger centre speaker would look bad.

    Glad you thought the Quads were good cos they along with the Castle Conways and sterlings were my preferred choice. Having a demo on the JMLab 714's and 716's on saturday. Been recommended to listen to the Kef Q series by brother in law. Any comments on those? Concerned that with more 5.1 orientated music likely in the future that floor standers might be better??

    Was going to buy the Denon 2910 DVD player but have been advised that the Denon 3910 would be worth the extra £300 because of the denon link!! Anybody agree with that? Also, am I better upgrading the cable from the plasma to the media box from the pioneer issued cable to a Wideworld Ultraviolet 5 cable. Cable are to be imbedded in the wall so I only want to do it once. Is it worth the £100's extra??

    Also I am looking to put in-wall speakers in dining room and in-ceiling speakers in the kitchen. The denon 3805 has a multi-room facility and I am looking to be able to play DVD in lounge, CD's in dining room and tuner in kitchen. I am told the denon 3805 will do this but will I need a second amp??

    Thanks again.

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  4. Falp

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    Even if Monitor Audio is probably my favorite speaker brand I think the Quads are a bettre match for the Denons 3805 because of the Denon little brightness...

    I heard the 3805 with the 11L and was awesome, upper models will be even better...

    Other great match I heard was AE Elite 2!

    MA S6 is great speaker but a better match for something like a Rotel, Marantz, NAD...

    But grab a few of these and go listen!

    The KEFs Q's and Focal Chorus S are very good but not to same level I Think...
     
  5. shandyswiller

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    Thanks Falp for your response. I think I will go with my instincts (and ears) and get the Quads. Thanks

    Shandyswiller
     
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    :thumbsup:

    But if music is important take a listen to a Marantz SR7500 (+DV7500 probably) too... and give us feedback! :) or even a SR8500... and this time try the MA Silvers too.
     
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    I do not recommend diferent brands in fronts/center...

    Try MA S6+S1+SLCR
    or 21L+11L+Lcenter...

    If depth is a concern then try a MA Radius R225 center with the MA Silvers...
     
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    Plasma a good choice of product, for you Av amp give Harman Kardon a try, fantastic product on both music and films, keep all front speakers same brand so they are timbre matched i.e. same sound, rears are not as important but would be nice if these were matched, try not to rule out sub sat systems as these can give stunning results if set up right, and can give superb dynamic performance, try Boston Acoustics. but no matter how much people tell you audition the product at a specialist, and use there services, that way you will have the back up if you need assistance on set up.
    Tim :thumbsup:
     

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