OK, I'm a newbie so please be gentle. I've been looking at getting sky+ for a while now but can't decide between the 160 or the standard. I'm looking to record (mainly kids programmes) onto sky+ and then archive to DVD with DVD recorder. From reading the forums I understand that you have to watch your recordings on sky+ to be able to record them onto DVD. Thing is, I don't want to sit and watch a full series of 'Mr Benn'! Also, am I worth spending the extra cash getting a sky+ 160 box when i'm going to archive everything off to DVD?? or should I save the money and get a better DVD recorder?? Thanks in advance!