New Years Honours

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  1. CFC1

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    Hot on the heels on whether or not we will hear those immortal words "Arise Sir David Beckham" :eek: Reports today suggest that U2's Bono will be given an honorary Knighthood......
     
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    What about that bloke I saw the other day that stopped a kid running out onto the road in front of a bus? Will he get a medal for saving the kid's life?
     
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    He should.. but he probably won't! :confused:
     
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    These honours are outdated and a mechanism to reward the elite and a "backhander" to others, particularly in the political field.

    I only have time for this when the ordinary man in the street gets rewarded for bravery, long service etc.... I remember when I was living back home in London and the woman that ran the printing department for 38 years at my workplace was given an MBE.... It was great because it was out of the blue and couldn't have gone to a nicer lady... just reward for a productive working life... :smashin:
     
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    Of course he won't, he's not in the public eye. :rolleyes:
     
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    I'll be shocked if I don't get one, for services to avforums.
     
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    Well comparing Beckham to Bono ... one has 26 years of being at the top of the music industry and about 20 odd years as a campaigner against world poverty, the other is a past his prime thick as :censored: footballer with an annoying wife

    EDIT: mods/Stuart ... I thought the word pig---- would be dealt with by the swear filter ... apologies, Merry Christmas, and do I really deserve an infraction ;)
     
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    But Bono is an annoying git too - I believe that he, like many 'celebs', do all the charity work as much for their own good (publicity) as for the recipients.

    I do like U2's music, but I just wish he'd concentrate on writing music and keep his mouth shut.

    Also I read today that U2 are worth €600million. Why doesn't he hand over 90% of his wealth if he cares so much about world poverty?
     
  9. krish

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    I agree, but I was making a comparison to Beckham, who gets on my tits a lot more :D
     
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    Also, believe that Bono won't be able to call himself 'Sir' as he is Irish.

    I wish he would call himself by his proper name - and 'The Edge' too !!

    Jez lads, you're both nearly 50 - grow up!!
     
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    Yup same as 'Sir' Bob Geldof, Arsene Wenger, et al ...

    What about Meatloaf and Alice Cooper, they're pushing 60? ;)
     
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    i think bono deserves the award, at least as much as if not moreso than prettymuch anyone else i can think of who got it or who is due to get it. he has a quality back catalogue of music with u2 who have kept the same lineup for 25 years, with only 3 musicians and a vocalist filling stadiums the world over and getting everyone to sing along. people have received awards for far less

    and whilst some may think he is only in it for himself and on a huge ego trip with his charity work, and you may well be right, the fact is that many people far worse off than us are benefiting from his ego trip. he is helping to save the lives of children who may die otherwise. if he has saved one child alone from dying then i think he deserves the award, don't you?

    i think music is one of the most powerful things in the world, the pen is mightier than the sword. rock stars can put on a concert or write a song and make fans the world over follow what they say, and if that can be put to good use and save people, then i see nothing wrong with that. events like live aid and live 8 unite people around the world to help the less fortunate as people can be more inclined to listen to and believe a singer than a politician. maybe that's not quite right, but it's the way it is. who do you trust? blair, bush or bono?

    (and whilst i think U2 have a great catalogue etc, i'm not exactly a U2 fan, tho i certainly don't dislike them)
     
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    It would be more appropriate if he was offered treatment for his vastly inflated ego.
     
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    Its actually 30 years, the same four guys having formed The Larry Mullen Band at Mount Temple Comp, Dublin, around 1976, with a fifth member (second guitarist); then immediately renamed themselves The Hype, then that fifth member jumped ship to another band and they renamed themselves U2 in '78.

    Getting back to honours - I don't see why posthumous honours cannot be awarded; if they can award the likes of Ellen MacArthur, Kelly Holmes and Matthew Pinsent a damehood/knighthood two minutes after they win a medal (rather than at the usual times - New Year, Queen's b'day, PM's resignation etc), why can't the likes of Bobby Moore, Ronnie Barker, et al receive anything? Bobby Moore has been treated shabbily!! :thumbsdow
     
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    Lets make a point of never addressing ANYONE as sir or lord form now on.Just refuse to recognise the titles.All titles should henceforth be declared null and void including Eral, Duke, Baron,etc Just Fred , Pete or Jack will do.
     
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    Pete of Westminster or Fred of Buckingham just doesn't have the same resonance as "Duke". :D
     
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    he does, they stick him on stage with tens of thousands of idol worshippers.

    i was front row at the glasgow gig last year in hampden, it was amazing. bono was clicking his fingers and said "every time i click my fingers a child dies in africa", so i shouted to him, "stop clicking your ****ing fingers then!"
     
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    i can just imagine the queen with a sword over the rotting corpses of dead hero's. do you think wills and harry would dig them up?
     
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    Pete's or Fred's of Hazard
     
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    NO

    Surgeons save children's lives every day but don't go bleating on about it.

    Telling people to donate money to "Make Poverty History" is one thing. At the same time spending 3m Euro on a boat and avoiding taxes in Ireland is another. I wish he would just concentrate on being a rock star and quietly do good things with his money.

    PS the glasses look silly
     
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    What about Liz and Phil?
     
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    Huh! Then Betty Windsor might stop calling us "her loyal subjects" and just call us plain "Colin and Justin" :eek:
     
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    Cow. My names Alan :mad:
     
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    fair enough comment, but his actions have probably save thousands of lives, and inspired many others to help also. i'm sure he's spent many millions on things for himself like most other rockstars, but unlike most rockstars he is at least doing something to try and help others, and he appears to be having some positive results. what's david beckham or anyone else getting an award done for others?
     
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    I believe that Beckham has done a lot for charitable trusts over the years. As a general rule I prefer to see honours going to people who haven't sought to bask in the glare of publicity for any good work they may have done.
     
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    Most people who do a lot of charity work never talk about it.
    The New Year / Birthday honours are an embarrassment, 99.9999 % of recipients don't deserve anything.
     
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    fair enough, but i suppose it's what they do that counts, if they want to harp on about it afterwards thats up to them, but it doesn't take back the good work or help they've done. in bono's case however, perhaps his harping on about things has been of use to promote the good causes and help people further. doing charity and not talking about it is also good of course, but some charities do benefit from big names helping to publicise things, in fact most charities probably want a celebrity face to help them out. it's almost part of the job of being a celebritity now, with agents getting everyone from the cheeky girls to someone who slept with a footballer involved with charities. you get the likes of rebecca loo's and tamara palmer tomkinson on gmtv going on about saving the blue haired spider orphans of outer mongolia, knowing fine well she knows bugger all about it, but if it's a worthy cause and the viewers of gmtv help out that cause as a result, then it's all good in the end, and i'm sure the recipients of charity are grateful

    as to 99.9% of people not being deserving of the award, well thats another story i suppose, but i think if the beatles were offered awards (whilst they were still essentially popstars, rather than the slightly older by a couple more years beatles of sgt pepper/white album/abbey road) for contribution to music, and folks who got awards for playing a good game of cricket, then i don't see why bono shouldn't get one for both his music and charity work. wasn't the lyric to "One" voted the best ever lyric recently? i always thought that was a tremendous song, i didn't expect the general public to share the same view. i'm either getting too old, or the public is getting wiser and getting better taste
     
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    I think he would do alot of good by paying proper taxes on his wealth instead of setting up companies in Holland. That would benefit lots of people.

    Off topic - but seeing as you mentioned honours for a good game of cricket - I wonder if Lizzie the Queen of Australia will honour their fine cricketting achievements. Rather more than a flash in the pan.
     
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    WTF! After all the pain they have inflicted on us, her "proper" subjects, .... not a chance! :D
     
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    but they are from southern ireland, so wouldn't be paying british taxes anyways if they were setup there, so whether they are setup in dublin or holland it's not really going to benefit brits much. why would they setup in the uk if they don't come from here or live here

    btw, i understand they opted out of the normal method of royalties collection, i read something a long time ago about them being annoyed they were paying royalties for their own songs they were playing at thier own concert, for the PRS to deduct admin charges etc and pay the royalties back to them, so they opted out of the scheme
     

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