New Tosh Regza quality concern

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs Forum' started by FunkyMonkey, May 1, 2007.

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  1. FunkyMonkey

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    Because as with everything, manufacturing processes improve and things become cheaper to produce.

    i.e. 1TB hard disks are now ~ £200 where as last year a 300GB hard disk would probably have cost £250.
     
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    the WLT68 does have M100 and 3 HDMI so hardly far superior
    I would expect 100hz technology to reduce in price the more manufacturers take it on
     
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    It seems that the new Toshiba range use the Samsung glass on them.
    Not yet confirmed by them.
    Also the new Samsung range of LCD's coming out this month are also priced very low.

    Kepp you posted on how the screens compare once we get to view them.
     
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    Kunal

    Your website specifies said TV (Tosh 42x3030) as "42 HD Ready LCD TV - Digital Tuner (1366x768) 1000:1 500cd/m2". :rolleyes:

    Up until then I was impressed with your reply. ;) Just joking. But for people who know no better, they may interpret that being reason for 42x3030 being cheaper.
     
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    Thanks for your feedback.
    We have made the content more accurate, now that it is available from Toshiba.
    Hope this will help and give a clearer picture to all.
     
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    The price for the WLT68 is overpriced, its true online price is around £1100.

    Don't forget it also has the Onkyo speaker system which is meant to put it into a slighty higher price range.
     
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    The specs are worse, in my opinion. Sure, the panels are now 1080p native, but the processing appears to be worse. Now that 100Hz is available, I wouldn't buy an LCD without it:

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    100Hz LCD on top. (Panasonic 32")
    Regular LCD in the middle. (Toshiba C series)
    Panasonic Plasma on the bottom. (plasmas are better at keeping sharpness with slow motion, but terrible when things start moving quickly)

    As you can see, 100Hz is a pretty significant improvement to the response of LCDs.
     
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    Andrew

    What are the images meant to show?

    They look a bit like the juddertest utility, how were they created, is there a bigger thread about them?
     
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    I totally disagree with your illustration to prove that 100Hz is more important than resolution. All othe rthings being equal, it is far more important for average viewing to have a 1080p panel over 100Hz. Why? Because Blu Ray, PS3, Sky HD, HD-DVD, and all future formats will or do have 1080 lines of resolution. Therefore, you are losing almost 2/3 of the pixels when watching in, e.g. 720.

    What is more annoying? The occassional smearing (on fast footy shots or super-fast film action) or not viewing over half the detail?

    Specifically to the TOsh TV's, the new x series has 24fps processign, thus meaning that Blu Ray films from a suitable player will not have any judder in panning shots - much more an obvious artefact than any artefact that could be seen without 100Hz technology.
     
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    100Hz feature is useless in HTPC use.
     
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    What rubbish FunkyMonkey.

    If you've ever watched footy with M100, then without it, you'd see immediately that this is the technology that should be in every set.

    As for 1080p, it's irrelevant until you get over 42".
     
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    It's swings and roundabouts regarding whats more important 1080p or 100hz. Very few have combined both if im right. According to Toshiba the Z series which is available in the Autumn will have both 100hz and 1080p. 1080p on its own does not guarantee a good picture it needs to be combined with a decent picture processor and the benefits of features like 100hz etc.

    You do not lose that much on a 1366x768 panel it really is the outer limits of the image - watch two HD fed TVs images side by side in a shop and you really are pushed to see the difference, in loss of screen not detail.

    Regarding price all new models are considerably cheaper than the models they replaced when they were launched. The 32WLT68 IMO which I've seen at £799 at John Lewis is a real bargin when you consider the spec.
     

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