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New to projectors - some advice please.

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by andy76, Oct 13, 2001.

  1. andy76

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    Are LCD 'computer' projectors suitable for video and DVD projection?
    It would be connected DIRECTLY to the DVD player and NOT used with a PC.(They all seem to have either S-Video or composite(?) sockets)
    I notice that 'dedicated' LCD home cinema projectors are more expensive. Why?
    I dont' want to spend huge amounts.

    Computer ones are either SVGA (800*600) or XGA (1024*768) resolution - which is suitable. Any advantage to a higher resolution for just using with DVD??
    SVGA are considerably cheaper!!
    What about DLP? IS it better than LCD for moving images?
    I have tried several models at work when we bought one but these are used purely for static images.

    Andrew
     
  2. tryingtimes

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    Yes they are
    Fine - some projectors also accept RGB and/or Component. These will give you the best picture if your DVD player is compatable.

    The needs of the user are different. corporate users often need high light output, support for computer resolutions. Video users would usually rather have more accurate colours, less noise, video resolutions and more flexible inputs.
    The video market is smaller therefore the numbers produced are smaller resulting in a slightly more expensive unit.
    I see this changing as the prices fall and projectors in the home become more commonplace.
    Dedicated home cinema LCD's start at about £1800
    Not necessarily. If you are comparing like with like then you may find a reduction in the 'screen door' effect. However in budget projectors the internal scalers are usually poor.
    Something like the Sony VPL-10HT is where they get good enough to be worth the extra.
    If you are likely to want an upgrade path then the extra resolution will allow you to either use an Home Cinema PC or an external scaler like the DVDO Iscan (£750)
    Again - at the very top end dlp is a superior technology but at the bottom end the advance with older LCD technology probably bring them about level (for the moment at least)

    If approx 1800 for the Sanyo plv30 or toshiba Mt1 is too much then I suggest you may (just may) be disappointed.

    Of course many here (including myself) decided long ago that the best performance/value picture was to be found by buying second hand CRT projectors but these are more complex devices and are significantly larger.
    You pays your money, you takes your chioce.

    Hope this helps
    Alex

    [ 13-10-2001: Message edited by: Alex Simon ]
     
  3. tryingtimes

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    Glad to be of help
    When auditioning you should try and find as many in the same place as possible (although this is usually difficult) and at a place where they will spend some time with you.

    You may find that some of the specialist av/hifi shops will charge a little more. However, this may well be worth it as they will often spend longer with you, make sure that you can plug everything in to it that you need.
    Some even come and install it for you within the price. My local Owl (sim2, seleco, sanyo) stockest (AudioWorks {formerly Audio Counsel}, Cheadle) will do this. the only thing you pay is for an electrician for half a day (£150) and they make sure that you are left with the best possible setup.

    Also when auditioning, make sure to take some dvd's with you so that you can see the same sections again and again on the different projectors. It makes a big difference. Try some with flesh tones, some with dark detailed scenes and maybe a pixar film just to blow yourself away :)

    Make sure you remember to take both region 1 and 2 discs as the resolution is different on each and also just in case they don't have a region-free dvd player.

    You might want to audition the following (apologies if exact names are incorrect)
    Sanyo plv-30
    Toshiba MT1/3/7
    Sony VPL-10HT (about 3,600 now apparently they have stocks to clear so the price may come down in a buyout kind of way)
    Sony VPL-11HT (about 4,300 out soon)

    Perhaps others can add more (maybe a dlp for comparison - you may prefer the black levels)

    One thing to note is don't necessariliy buy on specs as they can be misleading. Light output isn't as important as many think. The sanyo at 700 or so lumens is plenty bright enough (as is the Sony in Cinema Black mode).

    Also be realistic about the size you want to project to - I was a bit unhappy seeing the Sanyo at 6 feet width but then I saw it a 5' and was amazed at the difference (this all depends on your viewing distance, of course)

    Hopefully others will chip in suggest some other dedicated HC projectors

    Regards
    Alex
     
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    Thanks for all that - very helpful.
    I didn't realise 'dedicated' lcd projectors were that cheap.
    The only home cinema ones I had seen were around £4000+!!

    £1800 to £2000 was about what I would look at though I realise quality improves with price!!

    CRT are good I know but I need something I can put away when not in use.

    Thanks again

    Andrew
     
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    Well, PC World currently have the Sony CX1 at £1300 from an original price of more like 3 grand. I'm seriously considering buying one, but I'd lke to hear any comments from people who've seen them in action. I'm particularly interested in what the anamorphic picture looks like.
     

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