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michnixo

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I work in IT but always been a console gamer. Had an Xbox series x from launch but sold it after 4 months as needed the money.

Now looking into a gaming PC to go with my LG 4K TV. Mainly wanting to MOD especially for PES2021. Any advice on a good budget PC that can run games well at 1080p ultra or even 4K? I know PES isn’t the best example but it looks so much better with the mods. Would be looking at other games going forward that can play well graphically as don’t tend to go online. £1000 budget or less if possible
 
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Delvey

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The most important question, budget?
 

WildeKarde

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2nd question is do you want to build yourself or buy pre built?
More flexibilty building it but you might get better price on gpu component in a pre built currently
 

Delvey

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Forgot to add that bit. £1000 but if can get any lower, great.

pre built would be best 👍
Keep an eye on Hotukdeals.com
Plenty of decent systems from the likes of Palicomp and AWD
 

oneman

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You have better off picking up a second hand 7th gen or above i5 and make sure it has a decent power supply, then add something like a RTX 1080 TI which has dropped to sensible levels. You should be able to game AAA titles with most settings switched on at 50 to 60 FPS or higher at lower quality.

Found this for £850 and it will be faster than the £1350 system listed above for gaming.

 

Delvey

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Forgot to add that bit. £1000 but if can get any lower, great.

seen this one: PCSPECIALIST Vortex SR Gaming PC - Intel® Core™ i7, RTX 2060, 2 TB HDD & 512 GB SSD
For a similar price you can get the 3070 from here
 

Delvey

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You have better off picking up a second hand 7th gen or above i5 and make sure it has a decent power supply, then add something like a RTX 1080 TI which has dropped to sensible levels. You should be able to game AAA titles with most settings switched on at 50 to 60 FPS or higher at lower quality.

Found this for £850 and it will be faster than the £1350 system listed above for gaming.

Faster with a 4790K? Doubt it. You'll be seriously CPU limited with that in pretty much every recent release.
 

Delvey

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oneman

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Faster with a 4790K? Doubt it. You'll be seriously CPU limited with that in pretty much every recent release.
Of course the 4790k isn't faster but it won't be a bottleneck either. Things do slightly change at 4K where the newer generation of cards start to make a difference but even then the 4790K holds it own.

BTW, I had a i7 4790k with a 1080 ti and even on my 4k TV with AAA titles it was pretty good with a bit of quality tuning. Personally I wouldn't bother with 2060, its cheaper for a reason. If you want to spend the extra then go for the 3070 which aren't silly money but still has room to drop I think.

If you looking on Facebook this one looks interesting maybe too cheap, Ryzen 3600 with 16GB and 1080TI Turbo for £800

 

michnixo

Novice Member
Of course the 4790k isn't faster but it won't be a bottleneck either. Things do slightly change at 4K where the newer generation of cards start to make a difference but even then the 4790K holds it own.

BTW, I had a i7 4790k with a 1080 ti and even on my 4k TV with AAA titles it was pretty good with a bit of quality tuning. Personally I wouldn't bother with 2060, its cheaper for a reason. If you want to spend the extra then go for the 3070 which aren't silly money but still has room to drop I think.

If you looking on Facebook this one looks interesting maybe too cheap, Ryzen 3600 with 16GB and 1080TI Turbo for £800

 

Delvey

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Of course the 4790k isn't faster but it won't be a bottleneck either. Things do slightly change at 4K where the newer generation of cards start to make a difference but even then the 4790K holds it own.

BTW, I had a i7 4790k with a 1080 ti and even on my 4k TV with AAA titles it was pretty good with a bit of quality tuning. Personally I wouldn't bother with 2060, its cheaper for a reason. If you want to spend the extra then go for the 3070 which aren't silly money but still has room to drop I think.

If you looking on Facebook this one looks interesting maybe too cheap, Ryzen 3600 with 16GB and 1080TI Turbo for £800

You are going to be CPU limited with a 4790K in pretty much every modern game. Never mind games not released.
no offence but the 3060 really isn't a great card for the price. Performance is on par with 1080Ti but costs an extra £100.
Thr 1080Ti is years old. So no warranty. The 3060 is on par performance wise but offers other features such as ray tracing.
Also the 1080ti is going for £500 plus.on various market places, the 3060 Ti founders edition is under £400 with new 3060s going for under £500.
No offence but I'm gping to back out of this now. You are talking nonsense. You are telling the OP to buy a gaming system that is already out of date, with components that are years old over a brand new machine with the latest CPU and GPUs on the market.
 

oneman

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You are going to be CPU limited with a 4790K in pretty much every modern game. Never mind games not released.

Thr 1080Ti is years old. So no warranty. The 3060 is on par performance wise but offers other features such as ray tracing.
Also the 1080ti is going for £500 plus.on various market places, the 3060 Ti founders edition is under £400 with new 3060s going for under £500.
No offence but I'm gping to back out of this now. You are talking nonsense. You are telling the OP to buy a gaming system that is already out of date, with components that are years old over a brand new machine with the latest CPU and GPUs on the market.
I did say the 4790K is at its limit which is why I found a newer CPU later on.

Anyway, not sure where you are getting your pricing from ? Looking at fleabay and facebook the 1080Ti can be found for £400 or even less, we picked an Asus strix for £320 but that was a lucky find.

As for 3060 Ti, where are you getting them for under £400 ??? I have cash waiting if you can get them at price, more like £600 to £700 used or new.
 

Delvey

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I did say the 4790K is at its limit which is why I found a newer CPU later on.

Anyway, not sure where you are getting your pricing from ? Looking at fleabay and facebook the 1080Ti can be found for £400 or even less, we picked an Asus strix for £320 but that was a lucky find.

As for 3060 Ti, where are you getting them for under £400 ??? I have cash waiting if you can get them at price, more like £600 to £700 used or new.
A 1080 ti sold on these forums for £420.
As for the 3060ti, the founders is £370. I paid £400 for mine. Even from part alert they are £550, not the £700 you are quoting.
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oneman

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When did you get your card, was it with in the last couple of weeks ?

And the cheapest one you quote is £550 plus import taxes and zero chance they will ship to the UK the other £550 looks interesting but it's Palit and nowhere near under £500.

As for 1080Ti, the £400 + P&P sold on here is bang on the price I quoted so thank you for verifying that.

As I said in my first post, go second for now and wait for prices to get sensible which should hopefully be happening within 12 months.
 

Delvey

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And the cheapest one you quote is £550 plus import taxes and zero chance they will ship to the UK the other £550 looks interesting but it's Palit and nowhere near under £500.
It's €550 euros, not £. And it's a 3060 not a Ti.
As for it not being worth £550, that's the price unless you have a time machine 🤣
Oh, and they do ship to the UK. More nonsense.
I'd rather pay £550 for a brand new GPU than £420 for a half decade old one.
When did you get your card, was it with in the last couple of weeks ?
I received it back end of May
As for 1080Ti, the £400 + P&P sold on here is bang on the price I quoted so thank you for verifying that.

Looking at fleabay and facebook the 1080Ti can be found for £400 or even less,
You said £400 or less. £420 is more than £400.

Sorry but I'm done with your nonsense. You posted a decade old second hand PC for £850, I posted a brand new PC for £850 and you tried (and failed) to belittle it. A 1080ti is ancient, and with improving drivers a 3060 will out perform it for years to come.
If the OP wants any more information regarding a modern PC that isn't over a decade old and will be CPU limited, I'll gladly offer them some advice.
 

oneman

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It's €550 euros, not £. And it's a 3060 not a Ti.
As for it not being worth £550, that's the price unless you have a time machine 🤣
Oh, and they do ship to the UK. More nonsense.
I'd rather pay £550 for a brand new GPU than £420 for a half decade old one.

I received it back end of May



You said £400 or less. £420 is more than £400.

Sorry but I'm done with your nonsense. You posted a decade old second hand PC for £850, I posted a brand new PC for £850 and you tried (and failed) to belittle it. A 1080ti is ancient, and with improving drivers a 3060 will out perform it for years to come.
If the OP wants any more information regarding a modern PC that isn't over a decade old and will be CPU limited, I'll gladly offer them some advice.
I don't see how a Ryzen 3600 with a 1080Ti for £800 can be a decade old unless you have a time machine ?

And did I say the 3060Ti isn't worth

And I don't know what you are comparing the 3060 in the £850 PC to 3060Ti as the 3060 is at least 25% to 30% slower than 1080Ti and 3060Ti. You are seriously confusing OP by quoting for a 3060 and then start banging on about 3060 TI, two very different cards, I hope you know that.
 
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Delvey

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I don't see how a Ryzen 3600 with a 1080Ti for £800
The link you posted contained a 4790K, not a 3600.

Again, more nonsense
And I don't know what you are comparing the 3060 in the £850 PC to 3060Ti as the 3060 is at least 25% to 30% slower than 1080Ti and 3060Ti. You are seriously confusing OP by quoting for a 3060 and then start banging on about 3060 TI, two very different cards.
I referenced the 3060Ti in price, that is all. More nonsense. As for the 3060 being 25% slower than a 1080ti, more nonsense (surprise, surprise) again!
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And lets not forget the 3060 can make use of ray tracing and DLSS.
I am sorry, but I cannot go on listening to sooooo much nonsense. So have a nice life and I shall be ignoring you now
 

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