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Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by danlovett, Nov 16, 2004.

  1. danlovett

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    Hi all,

    Please can anyone recommend a sub for the following setup.

    YAMAHA DSP-AX750SE
    YAMAHA DVD-S1500
    Mission 78 series speakers all round:
    Front = 780SE
    Centre = 78CSE
    Rear = 78DS
    Sub = TBA!!

    My room is small 12' X 12' approx. I have selected my kit to favour music but hopefully be pretty impressive for movies. I would like a sub to meet this preference too.

    Must be under £500 and I will gladly consider a used sub.

    many thanks, Dan...
     
  2. Syrup

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    hi dan, i have the same amp and similar size room, but with b&w 602 speakers. the sub i have is an mordaunt short ms309 (this has been well reviewed on here) and i have to say that for my particualar room, i think if there was any more bass, the windows would fall out, its also very good with music too. it cost me £215 from peter tyson with a free interconnect. but if you have got 500 to blow, why not take a look at that baby svs that people are raving about! looks pretty awesome :)
     
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    The Rel Storm seems tailor made for you. Between £900 and £1,000 new dependant on finish they appear on the second hand market within your budget. I have owned a couple of Storms and they are excellent subs where music is a priority as they offer fast bass in a sub that is easy to integrate with any system as it is so flexible.

    I upgraded from a Storm as my priorities were different to yours.
     
  4. danlovett

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    Thanks for rapid response,

    What is a baby SVS. Sorry not good with the makes and names of AV.

    Was considering REL but read that the old Q100E was cleaner sounding than it replacements. I'll look out for a Storm, (are they the ones with 2 x 9" drivers?)

    appreciate the advice,
    Dan.
     
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    Rel have always produced two distinct ranges with the Q range optimised for home cinema and the ST range optimised for music. The Storm has a single 10" driver.

    Rel score with their flexibility as they are one of the few sub manufacturers who offer both high and low level connections with seperate gain controls. On many amps if you listen to music via "source direct" it won't utilize the subwoofer if it is connected by the low level cable which is where the speaker level connections come into their own.

    Whilst I am a great fan of SVS subs the PB-10 (like many B&W subs) doesn't have speaker level connections so isn't necessarily suitable for everybody.
     
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    The Storm 3 has a 250mm driver. I've just sold mine on the forums, but they do come up from time to time. Not as good as M and K for movies, but it is probably better for music.
    I'd probably go for the small SVS if the looks are OK (the Rel subs in wood finish have a good WAF!). I have a friend in the USA who has the new small SVS, a SVS PB2 Ultra and a Storm 3. He claims the new SVS to be better than the Storm for movies, but it doesn't have high and low level inputs, so is a bit less flexible.
     
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    You can get a REL Strata 3 for £500 new and IMO they're much better than the Q series.
     
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    The Strata (now a series 5 with remote control) is certainly used in some very expensive stereo systems. Though primarily only for underpinning the deep bass in music. Investing in a subwoofer with dual connctions (high and low level) demands a minimum standard of performance for the AV duties. Because, obtaining a decent subwoofer is very likely to turn your interest towards films. If only out of curiosity. Next thing you know you're looking for 10 more dB at 20Hz for the films and wishing you'd chosen another sub. Instead of one that just suited just music rather perfectly.

    So, I'd humbly suggest that a music lover also looks at the AV potential of any proposed sub as well.

    Nimby
     
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    You can only import the SVS subs from America via the Internet nowhere sell's them in the Uk.

    John
     
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    ALso very rarely come up for sale second hand:eek:
     
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    That Vibe belongs to a member here who has just upgraded, he should be able to advise you.
     
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    Still undecided....

    So is a Rel Storm is targetting music as is Quake for movies??? Is the Quake any good - a few of them going. (8" driver)

    How about a Q200E, there's a s/h one on ebay...

    I am at risk of buying the wrong sub through impulse! :(

    Can anyone run the main players by me?? (Rel, SVS, Velodyne???? - Model numbers will also help)
    I think i'll just keep an eye out for a good deal on a well reviewed sub but I'm not familiar with the names.

    'MJ Acoustics Pro 100 Active Sub Bass System' 2 x 8" drivers... any good???

    As much as SVS sounds like the fella, i think i'll struggle to get one to UK.

    Thanks.
     
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    The MJ Avoustics Pro 100 is a great sub - Five Star award winner (fwiw) from EHC and WHF (sorry folks :blush: ) - article here:

    http://www.mjacoustics.co.uk/MJ_Acoustics_Wesbite/reviews/pro100reviews.htm

    It was my first sub and I loved it. Still do. And I'd love it even more if someone would buy it from me :D :D :D :D
     
  17. danlovett

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    Where are you in the world??? Are you offering it for sale?

    thanks, Dan. :thumbsup:
     
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    I'm in mid Shropshire, and yes it is for sale. I'd really like £400 for it, as it cost me over £600, and is like new, but I'd take a sensible offer.......
     
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    :suicide:

    Looked at your sub on the web.

    What finish/colour is yours?

    'Comes with 10m Speakon to Solder Cable' ???

    How does it connect to my amp, i have a mono sub output i think. My amp model shows on the start of this post. The web shows stereo input on sub. High and low level inputs??? :confused:

    If all goes well and you can convince me that you are selling it for reasons other than any performance issues?? !! :thumbsup: Them i'm keen.

    And your price? Payments accepted, Paypal???

    cheers, Dan.
     
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    We have a hardware trading forum so can we confine all discussions relating to trading to there please.

    I suggest either that Dan starts a "wanted" thread there to which juniper can reply or juniper starts a sale thread to which Dan can reply
     
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    Agreed - will post for sale item on sale board....
     
  22. danlovett

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    Sorry new to the forum, where do i find the trading to see this ad?

    cheers, Dan.
     
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    "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.
    Teach a man to fish and he can feed himself for a lifetime."

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    Oh Wise One :devil:

    John :D
     
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