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Discussion in 'Hi-Fi Stereo Systems & Separates' started by virtualpt, Apr 19, 2005.

  1. virtualpt

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    Hi All, I have been browsing here for a few days & you all really seem like you know your stuff.

    I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice. I am looking at upgrading my current system, well replacing really, my current system isn't great (Cambridge Audio CD5, Technics A600 Mk3 & a pair of Tannoy Mercury M2s).

    I have a budget of around £1500 & am looking for a CD player, amp & speakers. Based on what I've seen in reviews so far I was looking at something like the following
    Cyrus CD6
    Roksan Kandy Mk3
    Quad 11L
    Or would I be better of pairing up components from a single manufacturer, perhaps pairing the Cyrus CD6 with the Cyrus 6vs (I quite like the small footprint size of the Cyrus components.

    Any other recomendations gratefully received. :)

    I have extra budget for some stands & liked the look of the Optimum
    50c.

    Also wondering how much extra would I have to spend to get reasonable connects & cables.

    Many thanks

    Paul
     
  2. Triggaaar

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    You don't need to pair amp and CD, although if I were going for Cyrus, I'd probably want to have both Cyrus, due to the look.

    I haven't heard the Roksan, but it's popular. Do you know what sound you like? (eg foot tapping fun, or more neutral)

    The Quad 11Ls are good. You could also look at Dynaudio Audience 42s.

    Have a look at Mark Grants cables in the power buy section. Decent quality, made to measure, but not silly prices. Also see the cables section for endless debate on whether expensive cable makes a difference (to the sound, rather than how good you feel about the look of your cable).
     
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    See if can get a listen the new monitor audio RS series. I liked the old silver series s1 model better thent the quad.
     
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    See if you can track down a rega dealer and try the planet CDP/Mira amp
    make a good sound together. Leaves £400 for speakers :thumbsup:
     
  5. virtualpt

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    Thanks Guys,

    Can't seem to locate a rega dealer in my area. Will definitely audition the dynaudios too.

    It's hard to say what sort of sound I like. I can't say I've heard many good systems to be able to compare. I know what I like to listen to, which is quite a wide spectrum. Biosphere (ambient), Philip Glass, Led Zeppelin, Faithless, Tom Waits, YoYo Ma, Pink Floyd, Nick Cave, Massive Attack, lots of dub reggae, Radiohead, T Rex, Kronos Quartet & many more. So I need something which has a pretty good sound across the board.

    Thanks
    Paul :)
     
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    I still don't know what I like, and I've been comparing systems at home for months. Detail and foot tapping fun would be good, but it's often a trade off. Sometimes I like detail above everything, other times I prefer the music to be exciting, and not necessarily 100% faithful to the recording (which some old Naim kit I have does well).
     
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    Have you given any thought to using your computer with a good sound card as a CD player?

    A basic M-Audio 24/96 will make a good starter system, if you want to go further up the ladder have a search for the posts by Branxx.

    Alternatively, if don't want the computer in the same room as the rest of your kit the Squeezebox 2 is popular and is gaining quite a following with people upgrading it, take a look at the current issue of Hi Fi World.

    If you think you may want to continue to upgrade as funds become available you might want to go all out for a top notch digital source to start with so that you don't need to upgrade the source again later in which case you might want to take a look at a USB Off-Ramp from Empirical Audio but you'll need an external DAC for that.
     
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    what area are you in?
     
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    Cyrus cd6 is very good. Has very detailed and quite lean sound which I like, doesnt always have massive bass but will sound great the music you mentioned. Vocals and acostic guitars sound superb. Would probably sound nice with the slightly warmer sounding roksan amp, demo them and also the 6vs which is very good also.

    I'm not so keen on the 11L's, pmc db1's or the dynaudio 42's are very good speakers imho.
     
  10. virtualpt

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    Once again thanks all for the good advice. Thanks Gary, but I don't really want to use my PC as CD player.

    CWilson, I'm in Wiltshire.

    The Cyrus CD6 with the Roksan amp sounds like it might be nice, as I do like a bit of bass. I'm going to arrange to demo some setups in a couple of weeks. I want to take my time, do some research, get some recommendations & then audition some setups. For extra info the room they will be in is quite small about 15 X 15 ft & full of stuff!

    Paul
     
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    there's a rega dealer in salisbury, and 2 in bath if that helps
     
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    What are they called,and where did you find this info from please?

    Thanks
     
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    It might be worth also considering the ex-dem and used route, especially for the amp and speakers. By doing this you just get so much more for your money.

    Matt.
     
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    Hi Matt, would definitely consider ex-dem, but probably not used, as I'm not sure what sound I like so would need to demo first. Also I like the security of buying from a shop/dealer should anything go wrong.

    Paul
     
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    Fair comments Paul but don't forget there are a number of dealers who specialise in used gear and may well offer a short warranty. This means you can of course listen before you buy.

    See this thread - CJRoss puts a huge list of sites on there which you may find useful:

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146707

    You've also got the slightly naughty option of listening to something in a dealers and then seeing if any nearly new examples are around second hand -(not so naughty if you perhaps buy a CD player new off the dealer but then pick up the amp and speakers elsewhere).

    As I said before, you just get so much more for your money, even if you are buying something that's just a few months old. For example, I will be letting my cherry PMC GB1s go soon for 70% of the new price but there are as new and only a few months old (and I'm not far from you hint, hint ;)).

    One other idea - one that worked for me - I went for the Quad 99 CD-P as this has a built in high quality pre amp allowing you to go straight into a power amp (and to connect other digital sources through the CD player's DAC. You get better sound and more for your money as you can get a cracking power amp for around £500 or so (especially used or ex-dem). Now the Quad 99 CD-P is £1K new (got mine for £900) but there are a couple of practically new ones on ebay just now for a lot less. Might be worth considering as apart from everything else it's a damn fine player. In fact there are a couple of Quad 909 power amps on ebay too.

    Matt.
     
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    Hi Matt,

    I would be very interested in these speakers (PMC GB1's). :)

    Why are you selling and how soon will you be selling them?
    Thats if virtualpt doesn't mind.

    Thanks

    Simon
     
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    Thanks for the info guys. I will probably buy new (or ex dem) rather than second hand. I want to be able to listen to various combinations before I decide. Thanks for the offer of the speakers Matt, but I'm happy for you to let Simon have first refusal. I want to take my time before I buy anything & life is really busy at the moment. I'm flat out on a project at work with aggressive delivery scales & I have a young family.

    On another note can anyone recommend any good wall brackets. Looking at the room, it's going to be hard to place speakers on stands anywhere to get a good listening position. So it looks like I'm going to have to put speaker stands on the wall.

    Once again, thanks to you all for your replies, it is really appreciated! :thumbsup:

    Paul
     

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