New soffits, guttering and fascia boards (cost)

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The Dark Horse

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How much should I expect to pay roughly for new guttering, soffits and fascia boards on an average sized 3 bed semi?

Anyone had this done recently or in the business to give a guestimate?

thanks
 

Steve.J.Davies

Novice Member
not recently - but they sure tried it on when we had it done. i got them to start with a smaller segment and get the price for that and then add bits to the spec so I could see the 'component' prices if you get me. the guy thought he was doing well till I told him what his per foot charge was for the sofit boards and asked if David Hockney was coming round to do the job.
The price the guy had been smiling about a minute before then dropped considerably - once he picked his jaw up. Up till then he thought he was on a winner and that at each stage I was staying within budget and was happy with his price.

play it canny - this is hugely profitable business.

I am told a lot of this is done via telesales so another tack may be.
find the nearest telesales office of a big firm that does this and get friendly with a telesales bod - use the same Mcdonalds as them after they 'squad out' or somesuch. they get huge discounts and still make their commission - and it helps their targets.
 

Orson

Moderator
Again, I can't help with price at the moment, but my inlaws had all theirs replaced last summer, so I'll try & find out what they paid.

However, one point to make, is make sure you clarify what they will actually be doing for the price. Make sure they are going to actually replace the facia & soffit, and not just nail/stick cappings on top of what is already in place.

I know that sounds obvious, but I know a couple of people who went for the cheapest, and got exactly that, nice white pvc stuck on top of rotting timber.

I'll post back later with the price if I can get the info out of the mother in law :rolleyes:.
 

dc007

Active Member
Look to pay only 40 to 50% of the original price that they quote you.

Be prepared to bargain very, very hard. When the salesguy starts to cry, knock another 10% off and you're paying about the right price...
 

The Dark Horse

Well-known Member
Look to pay only 40 to 50% of the original price that they quote you.

Be prepared to bargain very, very hard. When the salesguy starts to cry, knock another 10% off and you're paying about the right price...
I wasn't going to bother with a double glazing firm as I know they over-inflate their prices. I was going to use a local firm who specialise in soffits etc...

I know there is a huge markup on this sort of work anyway but I would rather pay a decent firm to do the job properly. I'm sure you can always find people to undercut prices but in my experience it normally ends up being a false economy becasue they normally bodge it and cut corners.
 

funkyspider

Well-known Member
Make sure the quote includes the cost of scaffolding too and that they specify the amount of time that the scaffolding will be up and if the scaffold at the side of the house needs stabilisers onto a neighbours land that you ask the neighbours.

When they did mine a few years ago the scaffolding was up for bloody ages after the job was finished. I almost had to threaten the scaffolding company with taking it down myself and weighing it in for scrap before they could be bothered to come and take it down.

When my neighbours was done more recently I was sat at home to find they had were propping up the scaffold against my house without even mentioning it - which annoyed me a bit, so I let my dog out to see how fast they could get back over the wall. Pretty quickly actually....
 

biggles1958

Novice Member
Again, I can't help with price at the moment, but my inlaws had all theirs replaced last summer, so I'll try & find out what they paid.

However, one point to make, is make sure you clarify what they will actually be doing for the price. Make sure they are going to actually replace the facia & soffit, and not just nail/stick cappings on top of what is already in place.

I know that sounds obvious, but I know a couple of people who went for the cheapest, and got exactly that, nice white pvc stuck on top of rotting timber.

I'll post back later with the price if I can get the info out of the mother in law :rolleyes:.
as an architect by training i'm appalled when i see the 'systems' that 'stick' new fascias on top of the old ones

its goes against EVERYTHING in building and common sense?

but this is a quite common approach with customers being basically told a tissue of lies as to why its OK:mad:
 

Achy

Novice Member
I was told to budget £50 / m length to remove all existing stuff and to replace with new.

That is for Soffit, Facia and Guttering.

Bear in mind that Black/Brown Soffit and Facia is more expensive than white.
Guttering is same price no matter what colour you go for.

Check how deep the replacment soffit/facia is... the thicker the better, brand names obviously cost more etc.

I had 21m done recently... cost me £750. Although this was on a bungalow so no scaffolding etc needed.

This was using a local roofing company. (Man and his son).

We got quotes off a local company that do double glazing, conservatories, etc.... £2500... :eek: although he said he'd come down to £1500 if we gave him the business that day (his year end). :rolleyes:

He said if we went to one of the big nationals "Everest" etc then we'd be looking at £5000.
 

the whistler

Active Member
Depending on the age of your house, your soffits may be made from asbestos which could add greatly to the cost of the job if it has to be professionally removed. However some cowboys may just rip it down at risk to both their health and yours!
 

Beobloke

Active Member
Our quote 2 weeks ago for a 3 bed semi including scaffolding was £2,600. It's Victorian and bl**dy tall, too.....:(
 

Orson

Moderator
as an architect by training...
Well there you go then. I've worked in the window industry for far too long, so it's what I expect ;)

its goes against EVERYTHING in building and common sense?
Yep, it does. But it's quick, cheap, and the cowboys that do it can make more money, with less work for them - and unfortunately, this is an aspect of the ethics of 'modern' life that really gets my swear filter active!
And in my experience, each time people have had the stick on stuff done, they weren't aware that is what they were getting.

Back to the OP, I've just found out that the inlaws paid just under £1800. Theirs was a largish 3 bedroom detached, with a gable on the front, which I'm sure adds a bit. They had the woodgrain look-alike foiled facia & soffit, but they seemed to thing that it wasn't much more for that than the white. And it was done by a firm that only do facias & soffits, not a window company with spare time ;)

Hope that helps. :thumbsup:
 

bobsplace

Active Member
as an architect by training i'm appalled when i see the 'systems' that 'stick' new fascias on top of the old ones

its goes against EVERYTHING in building and common sense?

but this is a quite common approach with customers being basically told a tissue of lies as to why its OK:mad:
I couldn'd disagree more.FIRST rule in building is you cant stick strong to weak.
Using "cover" fascia over existing sound timber fascia board is more that totally acceptable.Infact,its a better job than ripping off the timber and fitting 18mm plastic.Timber fascia is an integral member in the roof and gives it strength.
Covering existing fascia is a form of "laminating" which happens throughout the entire home in one way or another from the ground up.
 

IronGiant

Moderator
There is a however a huge difference between having your soffet/fascia replaced, which is what most of these punters think they are paying for, and having your existing wood covered in a thin layer of plastic in lieu of a repaint. Which as you point out is not inherently wrong, but it is if you think you are paying for something else. Also frequently the woodwork underneath is not sound, so it's just a coverup.

Dave
 

bobsplace

Active Member
There is a however a huge difference between having your soffet/fascia replaced, which is what most of these punters think they are paying for, and having your existing wood covered in a thin layer of plastic in lieu of a repaint. Which as you point out is not inherently wrong, but it is if you think you are paying for something else. Also frequently the woodwork underneath is not sound, so it's just a coverup.
Totally agree,BUT,I was replying to a specific post,thats why I quoted it;)
 

IronGiant

Moderator
Sorry :thumbsup:

By the way, I was recently quoted £900 to have my fascia's "done" from a quick survey (glance at the front of the property). Apart from the fact I have about 70m of fascia (it's a long deep bungalow) it's inch thick timber and has at least 50 years of life left in it. I declined the quote and said I'd ring him when they needed replacing:devil:
 

HMHB

Distinguished Member
I had someone turn up at the door and tell me I'd be stupid if I didn't let him do my bungalow for £200 :D
Don't let some pikey rip you off !
 

Lancaster M

Standard Member
Does the price calculation only concern the length of gutter fascias for front and back of house what about :confused:length of Bargeboards at ends of house?
Lancaster

I was told to budget £50 / m length to remove all existing stuff and to replace with new.

That is for Soffit, Facia and Guttering.

Bear in mind that Black/Brown Soffit and Facia is more expensive than white.
Guttering is same price no matter what colour you go for.

Check how deep the replacment soffit/facia is... the thicker the better, brand names obviously cost more etc.

I had 21m done recently... cost me £750. Although this was on a bungalow so no scaffolding etc needed.

This was using a local roofing company. (Man and his son).

We got quotes off a local company that do double glazing, conservatories, etc.... £2500... :eek: although he said he'd come down to £1500 if we gave him the business that day (his year end). :rolleyes:

He said if we went to one of the big nationals "Everest" etc then we'd be looking at £5000.
 

Ruperts slippers

Distinguished Member
Most professionals will advise a full strip.

They will most likely remove the first row of tiles above your guttering and fit a rubbery/plastic strip along and under that row.

Also with a full strip fit they should fit thicker fascia boards than is normal for diy, and remove the first row of tiles to the apex (bargeboards) and fit a new zinc under flash.

Fixing to the old fascia board is rough often the timber under the fascia board will be rotten as the old idea was the completly seal the roofspace from the from the outsie air ,we now know that causes decay .

Anyone not advising a full strip is either a misinformed diyer or a dodgy builder in a secondhand ford transit dressed like a tramp.
 

luckyb**

Active Member
Had ours done about 5 years ago.........

we moved into a property that had all sorts of plants growing out of the gutters, it was in a real state with leaks everywhere.

We had a couple of quotes, one was from a local friend of a friend builder at £1500 and another 'fascias direct/uk/or whatever' type company at £2k that was for complete strip and new products with 10 year warranty etc.

Went with the £2k quote in the end, full scaffolding and all done within 2 days. I was pleased with what they did, still looks new today........
 

the whistler

Active Member
i priced up doing the job myself on my bungalow and the materials came to around £800. Had a quote from one guy who came knocking on the door and he wanted £2500.
 

Deanuz

Standard Member
Hi I do this for a living and have done so for 10 years since I left school I started off working for everest then zenith and now for myself.
I charge £60per meter including full replacement of existing fascia's, soffit, guttering, new drip felt all labour, removal of rubbish, VAT and a 15 year guarantee.plus I have all my own scaffold towers

so an average 3 bed semi with a 6 meter run at the back and front and a 10 meter gable (22 meters in total) with the down pipes done for free would cost £1320 Fixed and would take no more than 2 days to complete, with no deposit and payment on completion once your totally happy!

Also I only use Swish and marshall-tufflex products. There is not much difference in the products I fit and the products I used to fit when working for everest or zenith. I still install to the same high standard as I always have but the main difference is the price everest and zenith both would charge you between £4000-£6000 for the same Job.

Shop around ask friends and view the work of the company, 80% of my work is through recommendation and my books are full for the next 4 months with work still coming in!

take your time, shop around and dont let yourself get bullied buy the salesman.
Thanks
 

Deanuz

Standard Member
Most professionals will advise a full strip.

They will most likely remove the first row of tiles above your guttering and fit a rubbery/plastic strip along and under that row.

Also with a full strip fit they should fit thicker fascia boards than is normal for diy, and remove the first row of tiles to the apex (bargeboards) and fit a new zinc under flash.

Fixing to the old fascia board is rough often the timber under the fascia board will be rotten as the old idea was the completly seal the roofspace from the from the outsie air ,we now know that causes decay .

Anyone not advising a full strip is either a misinformed diyer or a dodgy builder in a secondhand ford transit dressed like a tramp.
Have you heard the expression (if it aint broke, dont fix it!) if the gable is solid there is no need for new undercloaking and you could do more harm then good!
as for zinc its very thin and ive seen companys who just slide this under ur orignal undercloaking give your gable a quick paint with real wet cement mix and charge a fourtune for nothing!
 

Lee

Moderator
Currently in the process of getting quotes in to have this done. The cheapest so far is £800 with the dearest at £2100. This is to just have plastic put over everything and new gutter.

Had one guy come to give us a quote and he spent so long talking rubbish when all I wanted was a price I told him to go as I've got to take my kids to McDonalds. Never did get a price off them.
 

Deanuz

Standard Member
don't bother getting Ur existing timber capped its a waste of time (and your hard earned money)

say if in two years time your new roofline falls down (a bit extreme I know) and you have had your existing timber capped over, you call the company back in who did the job, assuming you got a guarantee, they WILL NOT put it right for free because the have only guaranteed the product they have put up and not the existing timber.

I have put right so many capped jobs because people think they are getting a bargain when there not
 

Lee

Moderator
What are the chances of there being a problem after it been just capped? Lots of houses around here have had it done in the last few years and they've all been capped. It's something I need doing soon especially as the guttering may as well not be there, it leaks that much.
 
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