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New Shortlist - Your opinions please

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by Rainbow6, Dec 5, 2003.

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Which would you choose?

Poll closed Dec 11, 2003.
  1. Canton CD-1 with Pioneer 912

    3 vote(s)
    13.6%
  2. Canton CD-1 with Yamaha 720 RDS

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Canton CD-1 with Denon 1804

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%
  4. Mordaunt Short Premier with Marantz SR5400

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%
  5. Mordaunt Short Premier with Yamaha 720 RDS

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
  6. Mordaunt Short Premier Plus with Marantz SR 5400

    5 vote(s)
    22.7%
  7. Mordaunt Short Premier Plus with Yamaha 720 RDS

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
  8. Go over budget and get the KEF Eggs with one of the above receivers

    8 vote(s)
    36.4%
  1. Rainbow6

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    Just making my mind up and wondering what your opinions are. What do you think I should get? Looking for good 'all around package' at this price point for movies and music. I'm currently running a Philips 28" widescreen TV, Toshiba 220E DVD, NTL Cable, Aiwa Video player.

    This is what I've narrowed it down to (still a wide swath). I still haven't heard the MS Premier Plus, but if someone has and thinks it's better then by all means, say. I tend to like the look of the Cantons but have not heard them either.

    [EDIT] Here's approximate prices:
    Canton CD-1: RRP: £480. Can be had for £450 or even less
    MS Premier: Can be had for £279
    MS Premier Plus: around £500 if you shop around
    KEF Eggs: I'd have to pay about £750. Others of you can get them cheaper.
    Pioneer 912: £399
    Yam 740: £359
    Marantz 5400: £319
    Denon 1804: about £340

    Shipping would be over and above most of these prices for me.

    Cheers,
    Jim :D
     
  2. mevetts

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    Really interested in the results for this poll Rainbow6 as I'm in the same sort of predicament.

    Would be great if we could see the approx package prices as well?

    Cheers,

    Mark.
     
  3. Rainbow6

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    Cheers Mevetts,
    I can't seem to change the poll to reflect this, but I'll edit the original post and give the approximate prices of each component, and then you can add them up.
    J.
     
  4. mevetts

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    Cheers Rainbow6.
     
  5. mevetts

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    Rainbow6,

    What is the diff between MS Premier and MS Premier Plus? I have just looked on the MS site and they only seem to cover the MS Premiers?

    Do they do any sets that are 'silver' rather than wood, wife friendly!

    Thanks,

    Mark.
     
  6. Rainbow6

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    Mevetts,

    The Premier Plus has an upgraded sub, the 309. That's the only difference. Apparently, the original reviews on the Premier pack said that the sub was a bit weak, so thats how MS rectified the situation. Whether the 308 sub in the Premier pack is weak for the average man is perhaps up for debate.
    They do produce a graphite version (not silver), and I'm told that some time soon there will be a lighter graphite version (also not silver but perhaps closer to it??).
    However, Marantz has now begun to produce a system called 'Holywood in a Box' which is the MS Premiers in true silver vanadium I think. Perhaps it would interest you. If so, check out AVLand's website.

    I'm in the same boat, looking for good but wife friendly stuff. Have you seen the Cantons, if you're looking for silver at that price range? I haven't heard them, but am told they are comparable to the premiers - maybe better in some ways. Look great. :smashin:

    All the best.
    J.
     
  7. mevetts

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    The Cantons do look rather nice. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has a set.

    Cheers,

    Mark.
     
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    had a set on demo, personally i rate them higher than prem's the CD2.22 pack is superb but at £1000 getting into B&W money!
     
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    Thanks for your votes. Keep em coming. As there are no Canton dealers in Northern Ireland, and I've not been able to hear the Mordaunt Short Prem Plus pack yet, I'm relying on your thoughts and opinions to get me in the right direction.
    Cheers,
    Jim :smashin:
     
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    Looks like its neck and neck at the mo. Anyone want to break the deadlock for the best all round system at this kind of money?
    ;)
     
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    Thanks for those links common. Unfortunately, we've ruled out the Sib and Cub package.

    I would appreciate any further advice, though. ;)
     
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    Hi,

    Has anyone got a set of Canton CD-1 speakers. They look the job intheory, but I was wondering if anyone has had them (so to speak!). I was going to get a set of Elac Cinema 1s, but are the Cantons woth the extra?

    I think I will probably get a Pioneer D812 receiver to drive them, will this match be ok?

    I am still undecided on my DVD player. A Pioneer one would be nice, it would match the receiver, but has anyone got any suggestions? My budget is limited, so the Cheaper the better!

    Thanks,

    Mark.
     
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    Seriously considering the Canton CD1 pack myself. Interested in any opinions on them.
     
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    What receiver will you be using Ron Hill?

    Could you run the speakers without a receiver until one was purchased, or is it buy both together situation?

    Cheers,

    Mark.
     
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    I had a set of CD1 on demo and if i am completely honest:
    SUPERB!
    Colleagues thought they were better than the Gallo micros we had at the time!!! Only weak is as ever the sub, BUT MJ accoustics do the Pro 50 and REF100 in Silver for future upgrades!
    PS the CD2.22 is awsome!!!!
     
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    I know i'm a bit biased because i have already spent my money on them but it simply must be the kef eggs. They sound better and better everytime i actually sit down and study the sound they produce, they are good in 2 channel mode aswell :smashin:
     
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    Thanks Hornydragon, I am being ever more swayed to settling upon a set of Cantons. Any suggestions about these additional questions.

    Thanks,

    Mark.
     
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    see RS deals on Pio 454 and similar. I have a pio 444 and it is excellent plays every type of disc you could want! However as Panny E50 DVD-R can be had for under £250 I reckon that the added benefit of recording pushes it up the list and is worth spending more for. £100-£150 superb player (no including component or PS) or £250 for DVD-R With RGB in excellent if you have Sky etc!
     
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    mevetts: I'll be using the CD1's with a Denon 1603 receiver. It's my first foray into separates for cinema sound. Prior to this it was a Digitheatre DTS which did sterling service for 4-5 years.

    I actually bought the CD1's but I won't be able to use them until I have a house to put them in. I'm moving into a new build in Feb 2004 and that's where they are destined for.

    This is where I got them.
    http://www.hifi4less.com/Canton_CD_1_Home_Theatre_5_1_Speaker_System.htm
     
  22. Rainbow6

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    Ron,
    Did you compare the CD-1's with any other systems on this shortlist? If so, what did you think. Did you try any different receivers with them?
    Cheers.
     
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    Ron you got a bargain mate! did that price include shipping?
     
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    Rainbow6: I'm going in cold to be honest. I bought the Denon 1603 for £149 new in an end of line sale. The only small speakers i've demo'd were the Gallo Nucleus Micro's and the Kef Eggs and while both had their pro's and cons, the price put me off. These are at a price I can afford(at a stretch) and I like the all aluminium design as a concept. Time will tell wether I bought wisely or not. Should be a step up from my ageing Digitheatre DTS though AND it will finally allow me to try out DVD-A from my Panasonic LA95. :)

    hornydragon: Supposedly another £9 for post to NI but no mention of it on my invoice. Have to wait and see. :)
     
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    fuzzybee,
    Happen to know if the KEF 2005.2 sub is magnetically sheilded?
     
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    Ron Still a bargain now if Mr Rainbow6 would would make his mind up!!! we could move forward, Ron what did you think of the old Gallo Micros?
     
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    HD - I've definitely narrowed it down to the Canton CD-1 and the KEF eggs!! ;) Am talking it over with my wife tonight. The price of the CD-1's is v. attractive, and my wife likes the looks!
    Will hope to make up my mind v. soon indeed.
     
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    LOL no worries mateif you can get same deal as RON did then you will be well under budget which will help with cables and stuff! plus allow you to bid on a load of DVD's in the Xmas charity auction or just go mad at CDwow!
     
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    Rainbow6

    Just for you i have managed to hire a crane to lift my sub up to the side of my plasma, i had no picture distortion so all i can say is yes it must be.
    I take it you are considering behind the tv ???? good luck with your decision but you won't need it, both packages are superb but ?????????


    nah i'll not bother !!!!! you know what i'm going to say:smashin:
     
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    HD & Fuzzybee,
    HD:
    Yes, that and the looks are the really attractive points for us!! I'm just struggling (with not having heard them) to know whether the sound for CD playback will be OK (taking into account the WHFS&V comment on their lack of midrange and timing or something or another). :confused: But moving up to the eggs would be an extra £350 at least, if my local shop will do the same deal they offered me before.

    Fuzzybee:
    Thanks mate. Yeh, I'm just trying to figure out where I might put things before I buy. The sub for the Canton and the sub for the eggs are two different sizes and shapes. I'm not sure if either is magnetically shielded (their websites don't say), and I'm using the old style widescreen TV - not plasma. So, I wasn't sure just how far away from the telly they might have to be.

    Thanks for both of your replies.
    J.
     

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