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New Pioneer Players DV-444 and DV-545

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by Reiner, Aug 15, 2001.

  1. Reiner

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    <a href="http://www.area-dvd.de/news/2001/200108/1508200102.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.area-dvd.de/news/2001/200108/1508200102.shtml</a>

    Pretty slim @ 5.5cm (2inch+), both allow MP3 playback and have 24bit/192kHz DACs (for CD audio, not DVD-A) while the 545 also supports DVD-RW.<br />RGB is also 'on board' and the 545 has an additional SCART for loop-throughs of VCR or the like.
     
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    area-dvd.de has just posted a review of both models. Basically it says they wipe the floor with the competition. The DV-444, apparently, does better than more expensive models from other brands. The MP3 functionality is good. DVD playback is astonishing, regarding both image and sound quality. Working noise has been reduced.

    The only gripe they had was the layer change, which still isn't right.

    I for one can't wait to see it, especially after giving up on DVD-Audio. Also, the Toshiba SD-210 felt too flimsy. The Sony is out of the question.

    Decisions, decisions <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
     
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    Out of interest, why is the Sony out of the question ?
    Admittedly, the Sony brand is often taken as a brand people buy who aren't willing to research before they buy. In this case, the Sony is a sensible alternative.

    I have a Sony NS400, which I have compared to the Pioneer 545 on a 32" 100hz set and the picture is very similar, where you can't say one is better than the other. The Sony is better built, whereas the Pioneer is better featured and slightly quieter in operation. Both were favourably reviewed in Home-Entertainment magazine (issue 97 I believe).

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    The 32" TV is the limiting facter, you proably couldn't tell any difference between a Tag and a Samsung, it doesn't make them equal.

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    I have a Pioneer 545 and the layer change at less than half of a second is a considerable improvement on my old Pioneer 606 but I don't know what is the norm.

    The area that seems to help with layer changes is that most DVD's now seem to have a layer change in a sensible place and not just anywhere as they used to have.

    I know that there are exceptions
     
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    Ian,
    What's the CD replay like on the 545?

    Ta

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    Jeff,

    I agree that on a larger screen, this would more clearly reveal each players merits and shortcomings, where there may be a clear 'winner'

    However, on the 32" set, it was clear that the Sony and Pioneer each reproduced pictures with different qualities and you could not say one was better than the other.

    We can't always trust magazine reviews, but you may be interested to know that both players received top marks for quality in last month's Home Entertainment magazine (issue 97 I believe). It's a pity Home Entertainment don't update their web site very often!
     
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    Sorry ScOOby been away for a couple of days and missed your response.

    The 545 is excellent for CD replay - a great improvement on my 3/4 year old Pioneer 606 which I thought was quite good anyway.

    Ian
     
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    i have a 444.

    It plays CD's suprisingly well through a Denon 3802 and Kef 2005.
    (as posted on speakers board in defence of Kefs)

    D
     
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    Thanks for the response guys.
    Looks like I'm gonna splash some cash on a 545
     

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