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New Philips lcds - 32PF9830

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by Herb, Mar 14, 2005.

  1. Herb

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    Hi,

    anyone heard much about the new philips models or the timing of their release? I was on the verge of buying the 32PF9986 before I saw this article.....made me think about holding off til summer, especially as the 32" set seems to be more competively priced than the 9986.

    http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=230

    :smashin:
     
  2. jimsan

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    The prices look amazing! I cannot believe that Philips are going to release such a 'hot' range of TV's at such low prices!

    WOW. If you are in no particular hurray I would wait. I'd heard they were supposed to be available late Spring/Early Summer, but this may end up being late Summer..

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    They do look great prices, especially if their RRP. Were talking well less than 3K for a 37"....

    Roll on summer

    What price the 9986 in a few months....?
     
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    HDMI, DVI, Wi-Fi, Memory Card Reader etc........What more could we ask for! Been putting off my purchase for the last 6 months, can't wait another 6, maybe I'll have too, in the pursuit of the ever changing world of LCD technology.
     
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    Same situation mate. Frustrating isnt it ;(

     
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    Just out of interest...for what purpose does having a USB port and Wi Fi on a TV serve? What are the possibilities?
     
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    Picture viewing and video streaming i would imagine
     
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    I think I'm gonna try to wait, the prices do look very good for all the features. Perhaps Philips has realised they need to be closer to the pricing of Sony and Tosh to remain competitive.....

    WiFi for streaming video sounds like an excellent idea, no mention of component connections although perhaps no longer essential if you have both HDMI and DVI-I connectivity.
     
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    I don't really know why the prices are so low. This TV is not really in the same market as the Tosh and the cheap Sony. It is a more upmarket set with many additional features not found on those sets. If the 9380 is as good as I think it will be its going to be a hard act to follow for the other manufacturers...

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    Same casing? The 42" will be huge! So we have PP2HD and Ambilight 2. PP2HD might be worth waiting for, but Ambilight 2 is not. HDMI? The current DVI is HDCP compatible, is it not? Not really sure if an 'extra' connector is worth the extra six months wait. Prices are a bit disappointing, considering the 37" costs less than £2200 already and will probably be cheaper in six months time. I am curious about the competition.
     
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    As the Philips doesn't have a separate component input when HD eventually gets going you going to need the extra HDMI input for HDTV leaving the DVI to be used as a component or HD DVD input. Personally I would have liked to see the NXT speakers dropped in favour of a smaller width size.
     
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    This may come if they do an equivalent to the current 9976.

    Jvaard, I think the big difference is going to be the new scanning backlight and Clear technology together with PP2HD. These other bits you mentioned are just logical upgrades that'll be appearing on increasing numbers of TV's shortly. Prices disappointing? You are kidding...

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    Only the 32" has scanning backlight and ClearLCD, if I'm not mistaken. And no, I am not kidding, I think the prices are a bit disappointing after seeing the announcements of the competition (Toshiba, Panasonic).
     
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    Jvwaard,

    But these prices are RRP's! You can knock off 30 - 40% more or less straight away!

    My guess at the actual prices would be roughly:

    32PF9830 - RRP £2299. Actual price £1500? (£1800 initially?)
    37PF9830 - RRP £2799. Actual price £1800? (£2200 " )
    42PF9380 - RRP £3799. Actual price £2500? (£3000 " )

    These are, of course, pure guesswork and will vary depending on supply/demand etc. But I bet I'm not all that far away.

    Look any better value now?

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    One of the LCD's is already out, I've just come back from town and they had it in COMET.... I was shocked !

    I'm sure it was this one - http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/images/42PF9830.jpg

    Very nice 32" LCD but from what I remember the price was not cheap....£2K+
     
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    I don't think so. I suspect you were looking at a current 9986...

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    I agree with you Jimsan on the pricing, which i think will be very competitive indeed, not as cheap as the 32" sets from Sony and Tosh, but with a shed load more features (and hopefully a better PQ as in shown by the 9986) to justify the price.

    I'd be very suprised if Comet, or anyone, had these in stock as Philips are't making them yet....could have been a 9986, they do look very similar??
     
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    As Tosh can be had for about £1400 can somoen explain what is low about £2290 for a 32 " lcd?
     
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    As for better pQ it seems that it is mostly a matter of opinion Given the reviews I have read the Tosh seems to be favoured over the 9986
     
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    yes agreed, PQ is matter of opinion. But tosh retails for £1700, not £1400 and i think Jimsan's pricing down from RRP is a fairly good guide. It has to be considered higher spec than the current equivalent tosh 32", but whether that justifies an extra circa £500 (on the rrp and therefore also the likely "online" price) only time will tell.....
     
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    There's little point in comparing prices of new models coming out in late summer with the prices of LCDs that have been selling now for a number of months. When the Tosh first came out I can bet it wasn't reselling at the current price it can be found now. Don't forget the RRP of the 9986 was £2999+ when it first arrived but you can now get one for £1800, or there abouts.

    Lets wait to see what else is new in Summer and then we can see how the Philips holds up.
     
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    Your probably right mate, seen something that looked very similar to that picture though....

    Will have another look next week....
     
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    Are you not reading these posts? DUH.

    Jimmy
     
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    Oh my....the Tosh is good, but is only being preferred as it is cheaper...not better. The Philips, as pointed out in a previous post, should really have been included in a different group test as it has features over and above most of the other sets in this particular comparison test. It then gets marked down due to its expense - which, according to the reviewer was £3000! Not the £2000 that it is available at now. These reviews are, at best, dubious.

    General consensus (ie not everyone!) is that the 9986 still has the best PQ of the lot. At the moment. Things are changing though.....hence this thread.

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    The 9380 uses the same chassis as the 9986. (as far as I know..)

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    Its that some are using the word cheap which seems absurd. Only when 32" HDTV ready LCDs drop below the £1000 mark can they be considered good value for money
     
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    Like the Samsung 41B 32" @ £1079 delivered (QED) or Video 7 @ £929 delivered (Ebuyer).

    These are what I call VFM, a Grand more for the Philips 9986? Would expect 37" for that!
     
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    correct!
     
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    You carry on and but one of the ones you mentioned then...you pays your money.....

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    Actually the Samsung you mention is not HDCP enabled and the Video7 does not say it is either. I think that £ 1000 has to be seen as the benchmark though. Go well above that and you've lost your marbles especially if you claim £2230 is cheap.Its like I wouldnt call a Jag at £50000 cheap when I can get a perfectly good runaround for about £12000.Good car yes but cheap not!
     

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