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New Philips 1000 Series. Better than Sony??

rogerh

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Just seen a magazine item about new Philips Hard Disc/Freeview recoder with the latest Philips picture enhancement software. I believe it was a model 1000 something. Has 400 hard disc and HDMI.
Anyone know anything else?
Will it be better than the Sony 710/910/1010?
Wonder what sort of price/
Have Philips got their earlier problems fixed?
 
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eleanor

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rogerh said:
Just seen a magazine item about new Philips Hard Disc/Freeview recoder with the latest Philips picture enhancement software. I believe it was a model 1000 something. Has 400 hard disc and HDMI.
Anyone know anything else?
Will it be better than the Sony 710/910/1010?
Wonder what sort of price/
Have Philips got their earlier problems fixed?
ive seen preview in uk video mag and obviously interested since this is the first dvdr which can record 5.1 and also freeview sounds exciting
ive seen previous theads to avoid philips dvdr still the case
 
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PeteTh

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The UK mag that Eleanor refers to is 'What Video and Widescreen TV ' Issue 300.
It has the Philips DVD-R9000H featured in the News section, it includes a overview of the DVD recorder, and a list of Questions and Answers with a Philips representative.

Given this is a UK magazine I would have thought the Philips representative is from the UK? giving credibility to the UK version supporting all these features.

From memory the news item singles out the following features :-
- built in freeview
- ability to record freeview digital signal without any conversion !!
- HDMI with upscaling using Pixel Plus technology
- Dolby Digital 5.1 recording
- GuidePlus
- 400GB

I think it said release October.

To me this looks the most promising HDD Recorder coming to the market.
I'm still unsure why Philips are getting bad press in these forums, regarding DVD recorders.

I have a Philips 36" Widescreen CRT TV, and have been very pleased with it.
Also Philips are fairly leading edge with their Streamium wifi products.

Surely they can't be that bad?
 
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eleanor

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yes peteth that was the mag i wasn't sure wether we are allowed to mention regards copy rights any way my other point is not being a great philips fan
they are a very established brand in electronics for years and this new product has lots of extra features which other dvdr not got obviously a dvdr is not about features it needs to have good recording quality also future tests hopefully will give us some answers
 

musukebba

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PeteTh said:
To me this looks the most promising HDD Recorder coming to the market. I'm still unsure why Philips are getting bad press in these forums, regarding DVD recorders ... Surely they can't be that bad?
Many people on many forums are anti-Philips because of the disastrous problems with the 8x0 series, and unfortunately this has unjustifiably tarnished Philips's reputation. The newer models, whilst being occasionally 'unfinished' when brought to market, show no evidence of the same problems that affected the older models.

With 5.1 recording however, this has been promised on machines for the UK and elsewhere for several years, with each successive model launch being delayed and then shelved at the last minute. It would be great to see Philips finally bring one out, but until it's in the shops and people are using it, there's little reason to get excited over what is essentially vapourware.
 

marty2005

Novice Member
Does it play back divx though?

Recording in divx would be great.

It's easier to record a digital broadcast as no decoding/encoding is needed, however it takes up more space on the harddisk compared to a compressed analogue recording. - Maybe that's why it comes with a 400GB harddisk.
 

musukebba

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marty2005 said:
Does it play back divx though?

Recording in divx would be great.

It's easier to record a digital broadcast as no decoding/encoding is needed, however it takes up more space on the harddisk compared to a compressed analogue recording. - Maybe that's why it comes with a 400GB harddisk.
Not so.

A Freeview transmission can be at different bitrates, usually depending on the bandwidth available on the mux. An hour's BBC 1 recording is usually about 1800MB, compared to over 2200MB for a comparable SP recording made on a DVDR. Recordings made from DVB-T transmissions on other, more packed out muxes, are even smaller in size since the broadcasters shrink the screen resolution.

Why is recording in DivX "great"? It's a compression nightmare if viewed on a decent display, and can't be edited easily.

Are we getting confused with the HDD size (250GB) and the claimed total recording time (400 hrs)?
 

rogerh

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I e-mailed Philips about this model and they've just replied with "No UK release date planned for this model yet". They did send me a pdf which includes a photo. (looks quite stylish) but unfortuneately it's too big to load to this post. :suicide:
 

Worm

Novice Member
musukebba said:
How useful is this?

No picture.
No price.
Erroneous information: DVD -R and -RW recording (where's +R/RW?).
Garbage information: "MP3 (MPEG-3)".

Same old vapourware.
...Sigh...

But still no mention of 5.1 recording.
I think its very useful!!
 
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PeteTh

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rogerh said:
I e-mailed Philips about this model and they've just replied with "No UK release date planned for this model yet". They did send me a pdf which includes a photo. (looks quite stylish) but unfortuneately it's too big to load to this post. :suicide:
Well I emailed Philips last week and specifically asked 'What is the release date in the UK for the DVD HDD Recorder DVDR9000H" and I got this reply :-


"With regards to your query we can advise that the DVDR9000H is set to
be released on the 07th of December 2005.

We trust that the information provided will be of assistance."

So just in time for XMAS.
 

musukebba

Novice Member
PeteTh said:
"With regards to your query we can advise that the DVDR9000H is set to be released on the 07th of December 2005..."

So just in time for XMAS.
Or not, since a Philips 5.1 recorder has now had two delayed launches this year.

Sincerely hope Philips are right, but to avoid having nothing to record with, I suggest making yourself a second choice of something that's actually available.
 

JethroUK

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Looking at the spec - i dont see any benefit over the 7300H - which is £350 and due within next 3 weeks

PeteTh said:
Well I emailed Philips last week and specifically asked 'What is the release date in the UK for the DVD HDD Recorder DVDR9000H" and I got this reply :-


"With regards to your query we can advise that the DVDR9000H is set to
be released on the 07th of December 2005.

We trust that the information provided will be of assistance."

So just in time for XMAS.
 

rogerh

Active Member
PeteTh said:
Well I emailed Philips last week and specifically asked 'What is the release date in the UK for the DVD HDD Recorder DVDR9000H" and I got this reply :-


"With regards to your query we can advise that the DVDR9000H is set to
be released on the 07th of December 2005.

We trust that the information provided will be of assistance."

So just in time for XMAS.
Sounds promising. Any idea of price yet?
 
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PeteTh

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JethroUK said:
Looking at the spec - i dont see any benefit over the 7300H - which is £350 and due within next 3 weeks
Yes the DVDR7300H/05 looks interesting, I note it is on the UK Philips web site
http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/catalog/catalog.jsp?fhquery=fh_secondid=dvdr7300h_05_gb_consumer&fh_view=detail&fh_location=//consumer/en_GB/categories<catalog_gb_consumer/categories<{home_audio_video_gr_gb_consumer}&productId=DVDR7300H_05_GB_CONSUMER&activeCategory=HOME_AUDIO_VIDEO_GR_GB_CONSUMER&fredhopperpage=detail.jsp&activeTab=specifications&language=en&country=GB&catalogType=CONSUMER

and
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/d/dvdr7300h_05/dvdr7300h_05_pss_eng.pdf

Manual at http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/d/dvdr7300h_05/dvdr7300h_05_dfu_eng.pdf

To me it looks similar to the Philips DVD-R9000H except
- smaller HDD 250GB (think the 9000 is 400GB ?)
- no mention of freeview tuner
- no mention of Pixel Plus2 upscaling

But it does seem to mention :-
- Video Upscaling for improved resolution of up to 1080i lines
- GuidePlus
- HDMI

The PDF file is date 30/9/2005
 

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