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Discussion in 'PC Gaming & Rigs' started by rooney, Aug 10, 2005.

  1. rooney

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    i currently own a xp2000 pc with a gig of ram and a agp 9800 pro

    i have started building a new pc 939 amd 64 3500 gig ram but i am stuck on

    wether 2 get agp 939 motherboard and keeps the 9800 pro or
    buy a pc express and purchase a graphics card for about £100 (any sugg )
    or is there a motherboard that will take both agp and pci express havnt seen 1 and if i do choose to get pci express with new g card am i gona c much improvement from the old system graphic wise games i play(halo/unreal t/star wars/half life 2/

    cheers :thumbsup:
     
  2. oxygenuk

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    for those type of games go for geforce 6200 or the next 1 up (im getting the 6200)
     
  3. rooney

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    Get the 6600 GT defo, I only stayed with agp coz of money constraints. As ur building a new system, i say future proof.
    Sell ur 9800 pro on ebay and by a 6800GT insted. oh stay away from xfx as the tend to be on the loud side :p
    Nico
     
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    I'd say stick with the 9800 Pro, but it depedns on the resolutions your playing at. There is no benefit with moving off AGP at the moment (except SLI). No games or graphics chips really exceed AGP8x at the moment. So it'll be good in a couple of years.

    See here for benchmarks of cards and games at different resolutions.

    http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050705/index.html

    Future proofing is nice but there is no point in buying a ferrari to drive round a car park.

    Cheers

    Rajiv
     
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    6600gt is suppose to be the best in its class, ive never heard anything bad about them.

    so i say go for it!
     
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    if your going for a new system you may as well go PCI-E gives you the ease of upgrading next time ie for a gfx card. this means no new mobo in the future. 6600GT = great card ! get a passivly cooled one as well they silent :)
     
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    Interestingly, there are some boards out or about to come out that will support both see here
     
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    pci express? thats the worst to go for man.

    i think u mean agp :) where as with agp its easily upgraded.
     
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    No, PCI-Express is the way to go for future upgradability. Soon you will only be able to get the top end cards in PCI-Express format, they will stop the AGP production at some point.
     
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    I agree PCI-Express is the way to go I generally upgrade my graphic card every 3 years at least and this is my 4 year on thin one because I waited till things got sorted (although a top card at the time of buying).
    The some new motherbordas support the use of twin PCI-E card being linked. So look for card that will take advantage of this.

    If I was buying a new MB and my graphic card was getting old I would definely speculate and go the PCI route.
     
  12. rooney

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    so 2 sum it up then i need to buy a card from ebuyer(credit note)

    for £100 quidish wats the best card there at mo u guys reckon pci e of course
    :clap:
     
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    For a £100ish 6600GT will be the best you can get, I wouldn't bother with anything else.
     
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    Get the radeon x800 pro sapphire. Sod the cost ;)
     
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    well if he sod's the cost certainly a x800 pro would nto be top of the list ;) can think of about 4 cards id rather have more. but we had this same thread a few weeks ago and we all reccomended a 6600GT for some other guy. PCI-E is the one to go for
     
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    cheers guys i wnt for the 6600 gt just got to assemble pc just waiting on hard drive :thumbsdow

    bought thermaltake case(soprano silver)

    AMD (Venice) Athlon 64Bit 3000+ Socket 939pin * (prossecor)

    ECS K8 NVIDIA -Socket 939 (K51150) NFORCE4-A939(motherboard)

    Viewsonic VX912 19 (monitor)

    PNY Verto GeForce 6 6600GT PCI-E 128MB GDDR3 (graphics card)

    Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 AMD Athlon (cpu cooler)

    Thermaltake Xaser Silent Purepower 480W PSU (power supply)

    2 Maxtor Diamondmax 10 160GB 7200rpm Serial ATA150 (hard drive)

    thermaltake Hardcano-13 (fan/temp/sensor)

    2gb of corsair value (memory)

    should last me a bit my last pc was a amd xp 2000 with 1 gb ram and a 9800
    pro

    come on ebuyer

    please let me now your thoughts /ideas(please dont tell me im a plank :eek:) on the bits that ive brought :thumbsup:
     
  18. pragmatic

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    All your kit seems good :)
    As you've went with pci-e your in good stead to upgrade your graphics card next year keeping you more than up to date, wrt games anyway.

    Bit off topic but I got this cooler
    http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/4in1heatpipe/cl-p0114bigtyphoon/cl-p0114.htm
    Keeps my venice 3200 very cool and only 16 db!
    Very quiet althugh absolutly massive.

    Wasn't availible on ebuyer though :(
     
  19. Kopite4Ever

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    its very smart mate. will p*ss all over your old system ;) 64bit is a godsend ;)
     
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    now have to decide on os windows xp pro or windows 64 bit xp pro

    heard that ther is a lot of compatiblity isuues with 64 vers wat u all reckon
     
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    id go with this and not 64bit XP :) its just not there yet and wont be untill longhorn IMO
     
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    Agreed, I would leave the 64 bit version well alone until they have it working, and as our scouse friend says that won't be until Longhorn :D
     
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    I tried using x64 but it really wound me up. Half the drivers don't exist, and the ones that do, dont seem to work! :mad:

    I've learnt my lesson, and won't be upgrading until vista is released.
     
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    built me pc was well impressed so was me mate so much he bought it

    he gave me a bit extra as well

    i am now in a bit of a dillema have more money 2 spend on a processor

    should i get 64 bit 3500 or 4000 is ther much diff inbetween that mr average(like me) is gona now the diff

    and also wats the diff between vencice and san dieago

    cheers guys :clap:
     
  25. pragmatic

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    Venice has 512 kb cache (memory on the chip) and san diago has 1mb, this can make a big difference to some proggies and non at all to others. Some chips will have the same actual speed but will be given a different rating depending on which cache it has.

    You probably won't notice that much of a difference between the two, especialy if there is still a huge price gap.

    Check out www.tomshardware.com as the will have some comparision chart on there.

    Unless your doing some scientifc or statistical analysis i doubt you'd notice a big difference, and if you want to play gamnes i'd spend what you'd save on a better gfx card. If your into photo/video editing get more ram for your money and if your storing movies/music get a bigger/more hard drive(s).

    Just my 2p worth anyway.
     

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