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The '85 seems good value, the '95 less less so - despite its bigger HDD, Firewire (i-link) DV input, PCMCIA PC Card upgrade slot, SD Card Reader for JPEG, TIFF and MPEG4 playback.

But then again, my HS2 accepts firewire so I don't need another DVD recorder with this feature. If I had a digital camera with SD card memory I might have paid the extra, but mine uses the CF I/II format.
The '85 seems good value
The E85 seems excellent value. Remember AvLand is never the cheapest so we are likely to see the E85 available for sub-£500 within several weeks of it's release. A good cheap option for those wanting a HDD/DVDR combo.

the '95 less less so
Not a bad machine but little more than an updated E100. A lost opportunity IMHO. In many ways the Sony RX10 looks like it is going to be the top machine this year: freeview tuner (with EPG) and a potentially a massive HDD are going to put this model ahead of the E95 in many ways. The only thing it lacks is a Flexible Record which could have a significant impact in some uses.

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