New Panasonic Flagship WT LED TV Range

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  1. hodg100

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    We didn't see anything other than a quick glimpse of the design but details are emerging on the WT range of LED LCD's from Panasonic that breask new ground for the Japanese Manufacturers by coming in much larger screen sizes, in 47 and 55 inch varieties.

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    Like everything else at the conference, actual details were scarce but from the US Panasonic website, we know it will be a Full HD 3D display making use of the rather nice new (in 2011) IPS panels. There will be full isfccc calibration controls, 2D to 3D conversion and all the apps and other associated gubbins.

    The design is a bit of an adventurous departure for Panasonic, too, and we look forward to getting our hands on one for review!
     

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    So is this going to be the first full HD passive set? :confused: Sorry cant help it I know you dont have much info at the mo.
     
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    Just been to the Panasonic press conference and we still don't know what they launched, no talk of TVs anyway...
     
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    Hi,

    Unless it is a higher resolution screen, I can't see it being Full HD 3D in Passive. I wonder if they developed their own Passive system or are paying royalties to LG?

    Suave!
     
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    Cnet mentions Panasonic passive, think I read it here too.
     
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    Phil any ideas when youll get to see them?
     
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    Mmm, this could be very interesting :D
     
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    The 47inch version could be my next tv :)

    Panasonic tv's usually have low input lag right? plus it's passive?

    As a rule when do panasonic usually start selling their new ranges?
     
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    I think it's just the E series that's passive Gary.
     
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    looking very interesting....but worrying....no tv models on show ????
     
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    Hi Mark, What 'E series' ? , Sorry i have had a few drinks but very curious :D,

    That WT looks like Sex on a stick to me :blush:, Combine that with my undying love of 'you know what':laugh: and i guess i'm destined to ave it :eek::)
     
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    I notice the Panasonic press release claims the ET5 passive 3D set has " Full HD 3D"

    Can that be true?

    ET5 Series

     
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    Can this be true? Full HD res passive 3D AND from Panasonic (with IPS and backlight scanning)...a dream come true...indeed it does says: "...FULL HD polarized 3D...with 4 pairs of polarized 3D glasses..."

    are they mad not to advertise the hell out of this ??? LG, be afraid...be very afraid...

    P.S. sadly I jumped to conclusion...another false advertising: IT IS INTERLACED, AND IT'S JUST LIKE LG...

    http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/us2012/product/et5_lcd.html#polarized

    anyway let's wait and see if it is actually better...getting rid of black lines would be a big improvement...
     
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    Not strictly true, as a polarized display is always going to be 'interlaced' in that sense of displaying alternate L + R lines.
    But nothing stops them producing a panel with double the vertical pixels so it still has 1080 L and 1080 R lines.

    Samsung said they were going to produce a Full HD Passive 3D using a system developed with Real 3D, but then decided not to go ahead.
    See http://www.3dfocus.co.uk/3d-news-2/samsung-drops-plans-for-full-hd-passive-3d-televisions/6125

    So it could be Panasonic picked that up, or came up with another alternative of their own.

    But like you, I am not sure Panasonic have done this with the ET5 - though I note they were displaying 4K resolution panels which could of couse display Full HD Passive 3D if they had the matching polarized filter.

    More likely the marketing department simply forgot a comma.

    It isn't a

    FULL HD polarized 3D, IPS LED LCD Panel.

    but a

    FULL HD, polarized 3D, IPS LED LCD Panel.

    :)

    But it would be nice if someone could clarify
     
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    The Panasonic rep said that 4K IPS wil be aimed at professional market so I don't think they did it for ET5...heh...passive 3D on 4K may be 1080 actually but it still has interline gaps however, probably not visible from a reasonable distance...

    I hoped Panasonic have found some way to make the polarizer on the panel "active", at a low cost (similar to how polarized 3D works in the cinema: polarizers are active switching, glasses are passive)...
     
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    That's how Samsung and Read 3D planned to do it.

    If you watch the CNET 'First Look'
    Panasonic debuts its first passive 3D LCD | CES 2012: Televisions - CNET Blogs

    At 56secs in it clearly shows "Full HD 3D", under the list of "high picture quality" features.
    It isn't 'Full HD' on one line, and '3D' on another...

    Given Panasonic have themselves made such a big deal of 'Full HD 3D' as a way of differentiating from the current passive 3D sets, it would be a bit of a silly error for them to have got this so wrong...

    As I say, I am still doubtful, but would be pleased to be proved wrong.
     
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    If LG 'get away' with it, why shouldn't Panasonic?

    As far as I know it's the exact same tech used in the new Panasonic's, as per the LG's. Not sure if they've bought in panels from LG or used their own though; I seem to remember reading somewhere they were going to used outsourced to a small degree in 2012, but can't remember where.
     
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    Yeah. I'd say it's the Full-HD passive thing again. They don't say 1080...
    As said above though, if LG get to put it on their boxes then everyone else almost has to to compete on the passive side.

    The active crowd should start calling their 3d 'Full 2160 HD 3d' :rotfl:
     
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    Ah, this was where I read it. Not proof they're using LG panels for the ET5 however:

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    I guess so

    Makes a nonsense of any claim by Pansonic in their marketing that "Full HD 3D" has any meaning though, if all their 3D displays active or passive have the same "Full HD 3D".
     
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    Hmm...ET5 are the only Panny model with polarized 3D and there is a claim by Panasonic that only WT and DT series are to have the new liquid crystal material, proving ET will not have the same panel as WT or DT...this could be interpreted as follows: they simply bought the IPS panel module with FPR from LG (which is the easiest way and would explain how they "suddenly" came up with polarized), while using their own IPS tech from last year's for the models below ET...of course, there is no proof to that...wander what would be the tell-tale in the real life assessment, can one "detect " by some visible or measurable characteristics that it is an LG and not Panasonic panel...
     
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