New OLED AFP 65" fears!

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    I have just joined the OLED set, but anxiety has set in.
    Post purchase depression?
    I am worried about burn in and image retention, but have no knowledge in this area.
    I have had the TV for 2 days, and if I'm watching Sky Sports my eyes are draw to the various logo's, instead of the match!!:confused:
    Also Channels with logos on Sky and free view.
    Also playing Blu rays that have a black band on top and below.
    Any guidance will be a great help.:(
     
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    As long as you don't watch news channels all day long for months & months on end then you should be fine.

    Also, make sure that you leave your set in standby & don't power it off from the mains as this will allow the automatic compensation/ cleaning cycles to run which prevent any IR becoming permanent (screen burn).

    I mainly use my LG E6 OLED for watching sports content & gaming both of which have static icons on the screen & I've had zero issues with IR or screen burn during the 23 months I've owned it.
     
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    Ah!
    Thank you!
    You don't see the black bands on wide screen videos a problem?
    The Sony remote does not have a button to zoom the picture, to fill the screen.
     
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    The problem channels are the ones like Sky Sports News or Sky News, which display banners with bright, bold colours. As long as you avoid channels like that, you should be fine.
     
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    Nothing wrong with powering off at the mains as long as a cleaning cycle has run (if it's needed) after TV is put to standby. I've done that for over 2.5 years on my LG E6 without problems.

    Edit: not applicable to Sony Oleds (see post #9 below)
     
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    Yeah, that's fine.

    Bit more tricky with the Sony's though as I believe they do their comp cycles hrs after being put into standby as opposed to the LG's that do them straight away as long as it's accumulated 4hrs or more.

    For that reason I think it's best to leave the Sony's in standby imo.
     
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    Never had an issue with movies with black borders either :smashin:.

    Absolutely no need to zoom movies.
     
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    In my experience of watching a lot (possibly over 75%) of HDR and SDR movies with black bars the screen will be affected unless you take steps to minimise the issue. Initially I wasn't aware of this potentially causing a problem and would watch nothing but HDR 2.35:1 movies for days on end with little other full screen content being watched.

    After a few hundred hours of this a dark line appeared at the junction point of the bars with the rest of the screen which could be seen on light areas (mostly the top of the screen on skies) in normal content and on 5% slides. This was cleared by having the TV display full screen HDR for a week or two.

    I now try to split the four hours before a comp cycle runs by a HDR movie preceeded or followed by a couple of hours of full screen i.e. 50:50 split. I also make sure the TV has a few 100% full screen 4 hour sessions a few days a week even if it means having the TV on with no one watching it.
    It's in the settings menu. Notes on using OLED TVs (about image retention) | Sony UK
    • Fill the screen by changing Wide mode to eliminate the black bars.
      Select Wide mode instead of Normal mode.
      1. Press the ACTION MENU on the remote.
      2. Select Wide mode.
      3. Select Wide zoom, Full or Zoom.
     
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    Apparantly so and my mistake, I missed it was a Sony. I was going to add a caveat on that but couldn't remember if it was or wasn't the case. But just noted this on the linked page I gave above
    After using the TV, use the power button on the TV or the remote control to turn the power off, and leave it off for about the length of one night. It is recommended that you perform this operation every time you use the TV.

    A poor implementation of the cleaning function by Sony there as it could mean the TV will be using more power in standby than an LG. I can't see it going into full standby low power mode (everything off but the remote switch) and still be able to run a timer or whatever it does to be able to wake at some point, go to higher power mode and do a clean.

    The LG implementation of keeping power raised for 6-10 minutes after going to standby to run a cycle seems the better way to implement this feature. Also unlike the Sony it means you can do a four hour viewing session, standby and clean, followed immediately by another 4 hour session, standby and clean and so on. From the Sony guidance above you have to leave TV off for the length of one night between viewing sessions to have it do a clean.

    So potentially an LG can run 3-4 times as many cleans per day for the same number of hours use (12-16+ hours on time) if using staggered viewing. Unless Sony has a clever feature of adding the number of hours use together since last clean, dividing them by 4 and then running a number of cycles back to back, e.g. 8 hours use, run 2 cycles and so on.
     
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    I know if you go into the menu you can change it but would make more sense on the remote.
     
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    I do watch Sky sports news regularly, but only for 30 minutes at a time.
    When you watch the live Football on Sky the Channel name is faded, but the time & scores is pretty bold.
     
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    Sky sports news soccer Saturday burned in mine.. Please be careful, It took 22 months.. Im just being honest and wouldn't want you to have a similar fate. I would class any news channel high risk.

    Saying that I never had issues with gaming or watching football.. It's just those blooming big banners and info bars.. But 30 mins isn't going to cause you major issues.
     
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    Most appreciated.

    Thank you!
     
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    I've had my A1 since September 2017 and watch Sports every day. Had the NFL on all last weekend with logos everywhere and Sky Sports news also and have no signs of burn in.
     
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    Thank you!:facepalm:
     
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    I am rocking an LG C6 oled and have been for 18 month or so and its still perfect! The image is the best I have seen on a TV and we have it on most of the day every day!

    Just enjoy the set and stop worrying about it, it will ruin having such a great piece of kit!

    It is still my fave piece of equipment I have bought!
     
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    Do you watch a lot of Sky Sports?
     
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    I watch a lot of sky sports news and the football when I get chance.
     
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    I feel a lot better now!

    Thank you!
     
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    The problem is like with everything .. it happens without you knowing .. have a B6 did some 10'000 of use with various content not a hint of a problem .. then i put the tv on and there is most of SSN burnt in .. no excessive use just the odd hour now and again , yet it happend .. also with SSN there are regular ad breaks which should make screen burn in impossible.
     
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    It's cumulative use, ad breaks make no difference.
     
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    How do you manage yours?
     
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    I think that is what i was intimating .. you have no idea when it will but much more likely on a tv with many hours of use .. not by a static image left for hours on end .. you can use your OLED correctly and still end up with Screen burn in , at least that is what happend in my case.
     
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    I don't watch Sky Sports, so that helps. I also don't watch news channels. Not because I have an OLED TV, but because they're not my thing.
     
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    Mate i have screen burn in and i watch Sky Sports SSN .. would that put me off buying another OLED the least of my worries Uniformity is a much bigger concern.. just enjoy your tv because if Screen burn was to happen it will be a long ,long time before it would.
     
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    I have never in my life turned the TV off at the mains and find it strange that people still do.

    Is this screenburn issue just on the 65 inch OLED screens or does it affect all sizes?

    I think it is absolutely appalling that people are paying £££ for modern TVs and they get these headaches which should have een eliminated a long time ago. Maybe if developers had spend more money and time in trying to eliminate such issues instead of this stupid war of numbers trying to bring to the market ever increassing resolutions which are pointless due to lack of content anyway.
     
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    Beware you will get permanent screen burn with LG OLED even with moderate viewing of Sky News Sky Sport News CNN news etc. It took 12/18 months but sure as eggs your viewing will become permanently ruined. LG denied responsibility wanted £1700 for a repair yes repair not replacement!! I took my retailer AO. Com to small claims court . I after a lot of time effort successfully received full compensation of a replacement non OLED 65 TV of my choice and the difference in price as a cash refund!! Good Luck but unless you cease all Sky ticker tape and permanent screen message channels even just 60 minutes viewing daily will burn that screen green
     

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    How long ago was that Eric?
    Well done on getting your money back!!
     

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