New Nikon f1.8G 35mm Lens

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  1. gingaman

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    Apologies if posted already (couldn't see it if it has) but some good news here for D40/D60 owners :D a new f1.8G lens that can autofocus, 35mm (50mm in 35mm terms), the f1.4G 50mm released in December is > £260 so this offers something a bit cheaper (rrp is £199) but has a different FOV which may be better for indoor pics but is a slower lens of course.
     
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    Thanks for posting this, I can imagine this being more useful than the existing nifty 1.8 range wise for portraits. Looks a good edition to me, could be tempted by this myself.
     
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    I've been thinking about picking up a fast lens for my D50 at some point, and had previously considered the 50mm F1.8 but this one is interesting. I wonder however why it's twice the price of the 50mm...? after all, it's no faster, and it's DX only, and the 50mm will fill a full frame won't it?

    for £200, I might well look for a 1.4 instead
     
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    I find the rrp pricing a bit confusing to be honest $199 / £199 I know the exchange rates here have gone south but that's taking the biscuit :)

    Isn't this about the perfect range 35mm on cropped sensor what the eye sees effectively?

    EDIT :

    Thanks to Yandros, I can now answer my own question.
     
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    Looks interesting - I did promise myself I'd hold off on buying any new kit this year, but might be able to stretch to this later in the year..
     
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    Looks interesting - my only problem - the DX bit!

    I do understand that it is aimed at owners of DX cameras but most would argue that the 50mm af-s g was designed with the D40/D60 in mind but it certainly isn't a DX lens.
    Is it cheaper to produce a DX lens?
    The Sigma 30mm 1.4 has the same problem, amazing lens but not so good on full frame.
     
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    Out of curiosity can anyone give an educated guess as to why they've made this 35mm compared to 50mm with the new f1.4G that was only released 2 months ago? The old f1.4D and f1.8D were both 50mm so this seems a bit odd unless it's to help 'encourage' people to buy both!
     
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    I read that as 234 euro = around £200 mark.
     
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    Which is why Sigma released their 50mm f/1.4 - essentially aimed at FF users.
     
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    Seems to be a gap in the market for this, it's only real contender is the sigma 30mm 1.4 from what I've seen and if they can bring this lens in under the price of that lens they could do well.
     
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    I think you're missing my point - I'm just questioning why the 30mm is crop sensor only? I just feel the decision is narrowing the potential user base quite considerably - is it just an awkward focal length? Why does the 35mm F.2 work on DX and FX?
     
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    It does seem odd actually. I didn't notice the DX until you pointed this out.

    Probably cuts the cost down dramatically. £199 RRP makes this a must-have for me if it that translates to £150-ish street.
     
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    I daresay cost has something to do with it, I suppose those with full frame will buy whichever 50 tickles their fancy instead for this focal length. Looking at the lens lineup until this arrives Nikon haven't got a prime below 50mm that will autofocus on the D40/x & D60.
     
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    I think this lens has to come in around that sort or price you mention, I mean people spending about £300 on a camera are hardly the sort to drop over £200 on a prime. It's going to be interested to see how it optically compares with the existing 35mm F2.
     
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    35mm f2 is one of the sharpest around with lovely colours, but the bokeh sucks due to 5 blades. I'm hoping the new one with 7 blades will remedy that.
     
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    Yandros - have you ever had a play with the Sigma 30mm?
     
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    Yes, but only in a shop. There was a HUUUUGE thread featuring a shootout between the 35f2 and Sigma 30mm f1.4, and the Sigma narrowly 'won', mainly due to the much better bokeh. The Sigmas do have a slightly warm colour cast though, and slighly iffy build reputation. For me, not planning on hopping over to FX any time soon, the cheaper 35mm f1.8 DX sounds like a winner.
     
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    :)

    The Sigma 30mm is a belter, believe me! Nothing wrong at all in the build quality stakes IMHO.
     
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    Any money we'll see a 35/1.4 AG-S that's suitable for FX....
     
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    Think I must be missing something here with my limited knowledge of photography, why are several news sites reporting this as the fastest DX prime available, see here or here for example.

    The 50mm f1.4G is also a DX prime is it not or am I being a bit 'blonde' :D
     
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    50mm f1.4G is AFS so will autofocus on the D40/x & D60's buts not DX so not restricted to just cropped sensor. I'm trying to think whether Nikon have any other DX primes bar this new 35mm?

    EDIT :

    They make a 10.5 fisheye 2.8 that's DX
     
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    Thanks for your quick response, I can see that the f1.4G is FX/DX whilst the f1.8G is DX only but both are AF-S so will autofocus on the D40/D60, the news sites seem to suggest that this is the first prime for D40/D60 owners with AF-S.
     
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    This wont have the full frame effect by using it on a D3 though?
     
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    No, it doesn't cover a D3 sensor fully. The D3 would react to this DX lens by reducing the sensor areas used to the central 'DX sized' portion, so you end up with the effective 35x1.5=52.5mm focal length. A true full frame 35mm lens would project an image that covers the whole D3 sensor, and would give you a 35mm effective focal length.
     
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    No, because it is a DX lens its coverage of the sensor is restricted to the size of a DX sensor. If you use it on a FX sensor, you will get dark corners or a circle shaped image. The D3 and D700 will detect that it is a DX lens and automatically go into DX crop mode. In crop mode, the D3 and D700 give you 5MP images.
     
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    DPReview spoke to Nikon about the reasoning behind introducing the new 35mm f/1.8G as a DX lens. read about it here.
     
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    Thanks for the link Mike, makes for interesting reading I was curious to note only 1 in 5 buy the D300 upwards according to their figures.
     
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    I for one am very intersted in this lens. Nearly bought a 35 f/2 a couple of months back from Warehouse Express for £190, then Nikon put the prices up and 2nd hand examples were going for £200 + . £200 for a Nikkor f/1.8 AF-s prime look good value to me, and you will always be able to shift it on. Looking forward to seeing the reviews.
     
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    I like the look of this, I'm going to take my tamron 17-50 out soon and set it to 35mm for the day will give me a good feel for what this focal length has to offer.
     

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