New migrants take students' summer jobs

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  1. jenic

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    Be thankful you don't live in Slough, Ethics stop it ;)

    There are thousands of Polish people in Slough now, way more than the official government figures.
    Estimates I beleive are at least 20,000.
     
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    I am a student and I didn't have any trouble getting a summer job. All you have to be is intelligent, hard working, honest loyal related to the boss and generally brilliant.
     
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    Slough (John Betjeman, 1937)

    Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough!
    It isn't fit for humans now,
    There isn't grass to graze a cow.
    Swarm over, Death!

    Come, bombs and blow to smithereens
    Those air -conditioned, bright canteens,
    Tinned fruit, tinned meat, tinned milk, tinned beans,
    Tinned minds, tinned breath.

    Mess up the mess they call a town -
    A house for ninety-seven down
    And once a week a half a crown
    For twenty years.

    And get that man with double chin
    Who'll always cheat and always win,
    Who washes his repulsive skin
    In women's tears,

    And smash his desk of polished oak
    And smash his hands so used to stroke
    And stop his boring dirty joke
    And make him yell.

    But spare the bald young clerks who add
    The profits of the stinking cad;
    It's not their fault that they are mad,
    They've tasted Hell.

    It's not their fault they do not know
    The birdsong from the radio,
    It's not their fault they often go
    To Maidenhead

    And talk of sport and makes of cars
    In various bogus-Tudor bars
    And daren't look up and see the stars
    But belch instead.

    In labour-saving homes, with care
    Their wives frizz out peroxide hair
    And dry it in synthetic air
    And paint their nails.

    Come, friendly bombs and fall on Slough
    To get it ready for the plough.
    The cabbages are coming now;
    The earth exhales.
     
  5. Mylo

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    very droll, not, any input to the thread perhaps ?:rolleyes:

    This is one of the richest business towns in the country :lesson:
     
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    I blame the irish....oh wait a minute, my mum's one.....
     
  7. krish

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    - sorry couldn't help it... I thought my avatar was a clue ;)
     
  8. Mylo

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    I hate him ;)
     
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    pretty much worked throughout the year as a student in Uni, College and Secondary School. students always find it hard to get summer jobs especially the ones who wait until the summer to apply for a summer job...
     
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    Always a few jobs going half way through the summer as well as alot of poor students carnt cope with being asked to get up in a morning for very long so soon jack there jobs in and go home to mommy and daddy.

    When I was a student I worked all year round and used to see this all the time so not bitter at all;) :D
     
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    Exactly.

    Good to see the right wing press still doing their best to keep this hobby horse going...........

    Slough? Sorry Mylo, but what a hole!:D
     
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    Aye - the council tax issue is becomming pretty serious with the rather large discrepancy in funding.

    Not very happy having to make up the difference because they underestimate the figures by oh approximately 2,900% .... and thats only the official figures, god knows what the real figure is.

    All because someone is :

    a) not doing their job properly.
    b) being vague in an attempt to deflate a hot political issue.

    .... I and many others have to pay extra on top of already inflation busting tax bills. :(
     
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    I remember when someone put up a very official looking sign as you drive into Slough saying "Twinned with Chernobyl" :)
     
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    Didn't it get taken down after an official complaint from Chernobyl.... they reckon they wern't that bad. :rotfl:
     
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    Twinned with Chernobyl? I thought it was twinned with Salt Lake City?:D ;)
     
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    Ofc I would love to live in Maidenhead or anywhere else, but due to socio ecconomic reasons I simply can't afford to like many other people living in the area.....


    ...... YOU SNOB





    :D
     
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    I left Maidenhead to live in Slough:rolleyes: , got bored of the town centre being like a gladiator academy every weekend. More pubs and fast food outlets than anywhere I've ever been. The house prices also made it impossible to consider at the time.

    To go back on topic, I feel slightly sorry for the summer job seekers. Eastern Europeans who will work like dogs for very little money price them out of the market.
     
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    Its not that difficult for students to find vacation work, but if they must insist on going back to Mummy and Daddy's (in a non-university town perhaps) they can hardly expect to find a job on a plate for them for much more than min wage. Students are just as guilty as employers, pricing themselves out of the market.

    This is being blown out of proportion by the usual suspects, with Eastern European workers an easy target. As someone who's continuously lived and/or worked in university towns/cities for the last 16 years (London, Leicester, Bath, Cambridge, Oxford, etc), I know what I'm talking about. All students I know are not finding it difficult to get a part-time job or full-time summer job... just a matter of pulling their finger out and not expecting to earn ****loads. There is plenty of casual labour on offer in university towns over the Summer!!
     
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    I can only speak of what I've seen in this town. I know loads of Polish lads though and they work seriously hard and do long hours as catering contractors.
    Personally there's no problem with the Europeans as this town already has the most diverse population outside of London.

    I won't go into the economic points raised by EG as that's another thread all together;)
     
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    Ultimatly who would you rather employ, a mega hard working polish person who will work 12 hours a day, wants to build a new life and stay with you, and was a trained accountant in Poland. Or a Lazy moaning student who is gonna leave after 2 months.
     
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    That's very true but there's a whole world out there willing to do the same, except they're restricted.
    Yet there are no quotas on how many people can come here from the new EC members where their wages are significantly lower.

    We have Bulgaria and Romania joining next, the two poorest countries in Europe. I don't see how no cap on numbers ultimately benefits this country.
     
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    Simple. If there aren't jobs they won't come. Why migrate to a country if there's no work?

    You could try influencing business not to promote jobs in Eastern Europe and elsewhere, but that's hardly likely now is it?

    As with everything there is always a balance. People are leaving this country for more lucrative work elsewhere or to retire. In some areas of Europe the English already outnumber (by some margin) the local inhabitants. Yet, do we hear them demanding a cap?

    Actually I do wonder why the French, who aren't exactly in love with us, haven't yet..........:D

    EG, I used to visit Slough for the flicks there. It must be the only place I've ever been to where the Cinema was the only place worth visiting!:D
     
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    Overkill, then why have immigration restrictions outside of the EU?
     
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    Indeed ex-pat Brits retired/settled in France and Spain are widely thought to be a burden on their public sectors, esp. healthcare
     
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    I didn't have many problems getting a job over summer, but a few of my friends did, and so were stuck doing bar work that they're sick of.
     
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    have we run out of australians then?:rotfl:
     
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    Because the fear is that these people outside the EU will not bring 'skills' to the UK. As someone mentioned, a Polish guy with a degree, and experience in a job, and of course willing to earn less is not far off the norm. Which would you employ? A highly skilled foreign worker willing to take a low wage, or an English student with less brains than a camel and just about as lazy?;)

    The EU didn't relax immigration laws on a whim. It was under pressure from business (and govt).

    With a falling birth rate (down to 1.5) we will have a severe shortfall in workers in years to come - unless we use foreign labour. Same as the US really.
     
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    The biggest complaint the Spanish (and no doubt the French as well) have is that the English are totally unwilling to learn the local language. This means that when the retired become ill (which 'surprise' they often do) that they are relying on health care staff being able to understand English. Not a good idea if you cannot describe the syptoms in a language the doctor can understand..........

    Apparently they weren't that bothered years ago, but now with so many there it's become a major problem.
     
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    oh god thats really bad, somebody stuck doing work they are sick of:rolleyes:
     
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    This is a great point nobody ever complains about thousands ausies, south africans and canadians who come into the uk take all the (security guard and barman) jobs and dont even pay taxes...
     

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