New House Build, what would you do.

scoobyrex

Novice Member
Hello

I have just bought a plot of land to build my own house.

It is a blank canvas at this stage.

I will have a comms/data room (Large cupboard) with a rack and structured cabling throughout the building, including PoE to wifi access points.

I need some input on smart lighting, I use philips Hue in my current house, decision made at the time due to no neutral in the lighting rings (iirc), but for the amount of money and lack of choice of fittings esp outdoor there must be better solutions out there now.

Money will be tight during the build phase, so I need to be able to future proof the approach, with future upgrades in mind. I will be relocating my hue setup (50+ devices) and would like to extend this if possible with 3rd party or a 2nd bridge and master controller.

I was considering running all lighting wires back to the data room and using central zigbee controllers with battery powered switches, enabling an upgrade to a centralized system later, or should i use a more traditional approach to cabling with zigbee controllers in the back of light switches.

There is so much choice out there now I do not really know where to get started.

My question is, if you were starting again, and on a budget what approach would you take ?.
 

TobyGoree

Novice Member
Hello

I have just bought a plot of land to build my own house.

It is a blank canvas at this stage.

I will have a comms/data room (Large cupboard) with a rack and structured cabling throughout the building, including PoE to wifi access points.

I need some input on smart lighting, I use philips Hue in my current house, decision made at the time due to no neutral in the lighting rings (iirc), but for the amount of money and lack of choice of fittings esp outdoor there must be better solutions out there now.

Money will be tight during the build phase, so I need to be able to future proof the approach, with future upgrades in mind. I will be relocating my hue setup (50+ devices) and would like to extend this if possible with 3rd party or a 2nd bridge and master controller.

I was considering running all lighting wires back to the data room and using central zigbee controllers with battery powered switches, enabling an upgrade to a centralized system later, or should i use a more traditional approach to cabling with zigbee controllers in the back of light switches.

There is so much choice out there now I do not really know where to get started.

My question is, if you were starting again, and on a budget what approach would you take ?.
Hello scoobyrex.

Having recently renovated a 2-bedroom bungalow for myself on a budget, I can definitely give you some advice on a few areas.

To give you a quick low down I've been a programmer for Pro Media Solutions a professional smart home company for 5+ years now. But am now the project manager/technical manager so I deal with new projects on the weekly.

Firstly cable. Low cost but key for future proofing the house. You need to cable the hell out of that build. Cables can be hidden once the build is complete, but then accessed and used if needs be in the future, for instance leave speaker cables in ceilings until you want speakers and pull them out as required.

Secondly lighting. You've got Hue which I appreciate is a great product and fits the needs of most retro fit systems. But now that you are looking to start from scratch I'd consider a home automation system with lighting included, we install Control4 which automates lighting, audio, intercom, video, heating, shades, security and much more. The issue with hue is that you are stuck with hue just being a lighting system. Where as home automation systems bring everything together.

Lastly, dont be fooled by prices! Home automation systems are becoming more affordable. Not only that but they are tailored to your needs, meaning you can start by automating one room or a floor of the house. Then in years to come, add more automation when you need.
 
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I think that in your position I would pay for a few hours of an Integrators time to talk you through what is available, wht you want and how much you want to spend.

You can go from a few hundred pounds to a full Loxone / KNX / C4 / Crestron install.

If you dont want to do that, i would look at engaging a specialist smart lighting contractor as there is a lot of choice in this space. At the budget end you have Smart Modules at the switch, such as Fibaro or Shelly through to Lutron RA, Crestron, Clipsal CBus, Rako (wired and radio), iGlass, KNX, C4 and quite a few others. Again its all very budget dependent.

Price differences will range from £20' ish per switch at the bottom end (Shelly) £45 ish per switch (fibaro) to around £200 per switch with the likes of C4, Lutron RA or Rako and more than that for other solutions. Dealers will tell you its cheaper but when you factor in install, controllers, cabling, programming and maintenance those numbers are about right (I have worked with lots of system installers)

Future proofing is almost impossible other than traditional lighting circuits. The bare minimum for me would be to make sure that you run Neutrals to each switch (which is pretty common with modern wiring).

If you are determined to keep your Philips lighting then my recommendation would be to use something like Shelly or Fibaro modules purely as switches, to ensure that you can always supply power to the Philips bulbs.
 

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