New Dell 24" LCD monitor

AML

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Just saw this, and its a steal. @ $1000

24" 1920X1200, Component, DVI-D, VGA. 12ms response.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120996,00.asp

Just wondering if anyone out there has it, and if so are all the conections good?

Ive seen some LCDs that look good through VGA or DVI but didnt look that good through Component.

Im looking for something to use with my 360 and PS3 once I get them. As well as my PC.

What do u guys think?

Im also looking at this other monitor with almost the same specs.

http://www.eizo.co.jp/products/lcd/s2410w/index.html

Just not sure if Dell can be trusted over more well known LCD monitor makers like Eizo. (in Japan anyway)

The eizo set is also a bit more expensive which is why im thinking about the Dell.

Any input welcome.
 

Lord Midas

Active Member
That is one of the best 24" widescreen monitors.

I have the Dell 2005FPW which is their 20.1" Widescreen with a resolution of 1680x1050 and is just superb. And I got it for £375 (w00t! etc) :thumbsup:

I play a lot of FPS and have yet to notice any tearing, ghosting, etc. And my screen is reported to have 12ms but is more likely to be 16ms.

I'd go for it but if you want to play games in the monitors native resloution you're going to need one hell of a ninja PC. :lesson:
 

AML

Well-known Member
yeah, sounds like it might be worth a go.
It only costs 90.000 yen which is less than $900 US.

Its cheaper in Japan than in the US!!??

I already ordered it so...

I have a 6800GT and I will be building an even better PC in a year or so. Im pretty sure it can handle it.

Also want to use it for the 360 and the PS3. 360 will use VGA. Wonder how it will work with this monitor?

The PS3 will need HDMI, but nothing out there just now with that.
Its possibly sony will release a DVI-D cable, or we can use an adapter ( HDMI to DVi-D.).
The only problem I can think of is the monitor not having HDCP.

Anyway, for PC and XBox 360 it should Rock.
 

Paul D

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I just happened to be looking at Scans website, then came across this thread...
Just thought my link might be of use for anybody wanting to pick one up instantly. :rolleyes:

Anyway!

Dell does seem to be asking £603 plus delivery etc.

A quick search revealed £568 on the web etc.
Click here
 

AML

Well-known Member
So I assume that since its getting a lot of attention that its a pretty good monitor?
(thanks for the price links but ill be buying it in Japan)
 

cwick

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Yes, pretty good, depending on what you want to do with it. Video is pretty much as no-no though. Toms Hardware did a pretty technical review of it, and specifically noted that ...

Video noise while watching DVDs is strongly evident. This is a shame, because the format of the screen would be perfect for this application. Forget it, though - there is definitely too much video noise and, in addition, viewing angles aren't suitable. Games are clearly not this monitor's strength, either; it's too slow, and the monitor displays annoying lags. Worst of all, moving images lose sharpness in their textures.
Glad I found that - at least I know it's not just my setup now.
 

pjskel

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@ AML - no need to concern yourself with HDCP on the monitor for Xbox 360. PS3 though, movie playback - it'll probably have some sort of breakout box to convert HDMI to Component.

For those looking for a widescreen monitor for various usages, wait until next week or the week after, when the new Benq 20" comes out. £385 + VAT is the SRP. Uses AUO premium panel with 8ms response.

It's also been mentioned that MS might be doing a DVI cable - if so, then you're laughing as this will give the best image.
 
S

sooperscoop

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I've had a Dell 2405 for around 5 months now, and it is a stunning monitor. When you first get it out of the box you think 'crap, that's too big!' but you soon get used to it. I'm driving it at 1920x1200 off a 6800gt, and for high-end games that's pushing it a bit just due to the sheer amount of pixels, and I sometimes have to turn down the effects. Never seen any lag or ghosting, even in FPSs.

WoW in 1920x1200 is a wonderous thing to behold....
 

beany

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I have 3 of these displays (2405) and there great monitors, very bright and vibrant colours. I use them for graphics/web design, art and gaming. I'm very very picky with image quality but these are great, infact the best TFT's i've used. Not so good running video on from an external DVD player or whatever, but thats because they have no image processing to make it look better like a TV would, and also being a PC display it will beat any TV with sharpness, accuracy and pixel count for something of this size, so you see exactly what the source is outputting and all the imperfections in it.

On my main PC i'm running two of these displays off a nVidia 7800GTX by DVI, at there native resolution (obviously), so 2x 1920x1200, or 3840x1200 being as the desktop is spanned across both displays. If you want to game at that native res the 7800 is pretty much the only graphics card that can handle it with any game at the moment, or ATI's soon to be released X1800XT, and it looks amazing, forget about 360 and PS3.
 

GrahamC

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beany said:
I have 3 of these displays (2405) and there great monitors, very bright and vibrant colours. I use them for graphics/web design, art and gaming. I'm very very picky with image quality but these are great, infact the best TFT's i've used. Not so good running video on from an external DVD player or whatever, but thats because they have no image processing to make it look better like a TV would, and also being a PC display it will beat any TV with sharpness, accuracy and pixel count for something of this size, so you see exactly what the source is outputting and all the imperfections in it.

On my main PC i'm running two of these displays off a nVidia 7800GTX by DVI, at there native resolution (obviously), so 2x 1920x1200, or 3840x1200 being as the desktop is spanned across both displays. If you want to game at that native res the 7800 is pretty much the only graphics card that can handle it with any game at the moment, or ATI's soon to be released X1800XT, and it looks amazing, forget about 360 and PS3.
Dam you, you made me dribble all over my monitor.:cool:
 

NicolasB

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I have one of these, and it's rather nice. It's outrageously bright; black-level isn't great, especially in the corners; and it has tendency to slightly oversaturate colours. But 1920x1200 on a 24" screen still looks stunning, even via VGA.

I've recently been replaying Deus Ex, and it actually runs very smoothly at 1920x1200 on my GeForce 3. :) Most games don't like that resolution, but it'll handle either 1920x1080 or 1600x1200 very nicely too.

I haven't tried this, but I would imagine that using an HTPC as a DVD player + scaler would look amazing.

The one big downside is that there's no HDCP support, so it will be of limited use for hi-def video.
 

Yaka

Active Member
NicolasB said:
I have one of these, and it's rather nice. It's outrageously bright; black-level isn't great, especially in the corners; .
dude you got backlight issues if the corners in black dont seem ok.
 

beany

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NicolasB said:
I have one of these, and it's rather nice. It's outrageously bright; black-level isn't great, especially in the corners; and it has tendency to slightly oversaturate colours. But 1920x1200 on a 24" screen still looks stunning, even via VGA.

I've recently been replaying Deus Ex, and it actually runs very smoothly at 1920x1200 on my GeForce 3. :) Most games don't like that resolution, but it'll handle either 1920x1080 or 1600x1200 very nicely too.

I haven't tried this, but I would imagine that using an HTPC as a DVD player + scaler would look amazing.

The one big downside is that there's no HDCP support, so it will be of limited use for hi-def video.
Yeah it seems like you have a backlight issue, the whole screen should be the same with black levels, if you turned the lights off in the room and get up a black screen and some areas are considerably lighter than others then you have a backlight problem.

And try running a new game at 1920x1200 on a Geforce 3.. not going to happen ;)

Anyone who's interested, you can download hi-def vids here from Microsofts site, there in WMV format so they have been compressed a little, but there very impressive looking on this display.
 

Dutch

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I received my 2405FPW last week and was pleased to get it for £603 delivered - just seen that it's gone back up to £942! :eek: It's a nice upgrade from my 2001FP - which I see is going for a very reasonable £390 at the moment. :smashin:

Steve
 

NicolasB

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beany said:
Yeah it seems like you have a backlight issue, the whole screen should be the same with black levels, if you turned the lights off in the room and get up a black screen and some areas are considerably lighter than others then you have a backlight problem.
No, it's not that, it's a viewing angle issue. If you view the screen from 5 feet away it's an even black. But if you sit just 12 inches from the screen, because the screen is so big, when you're lined up with the centre of it, the corners are so far off-axis they start to suffer from classic LCD viewing angle problems.
 

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